Motivation for GCSE's

Nitefly said:
Not all graduates go on to get the best jobs.

Not all those that left school post GCSE are on considerable wages either.

*shrug*

I'm just saying that amount of graduates that aren't in high paying jobs isn't necessarily a very good indicator of which is the preferential path :)
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So there is a lot of people that just don't fly high.

On a basis of a clear path or aspiration is what I'm commenting on.

Obviously it doesnt work all the time.

No one leaves school and thinks which direction should I take to definitely get me on sub 20k a year
 
I'll take that stat that is a selling point as gospel.

Im not bringing out stats because I have none, that doesn't mean that everything I have said is irrelevant. Most of it is opinion.

The topic somehow went to what to do after school.... I started off by giving options and my experience regarding options.

the 250K might still be actual truth but I couldnt care less and you got it from basically a brochure
 
Nitefly said:
Not all graduates go on to get the best jobs.

Not all those that left school post GCSE are on considerable wages either.

*shrug*

I'm just saying that amount of graduates that aren't in high paying jobs isn't necessarily a very good indicator of which is the preferential path :)
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This.

Getting a degree will open more doors to careers that would otherwise be closed to people who went into work straight after school. I'm not saying either way is best, you just have to balance the pros and cons depending on your needs, wants and abilities.

Who cares what other people do/achieve, it's all about giving yourself the best opportunity to progress in life. Whether that's going to a good university to study a respected subject or doing and apprentice scheme doesn't really matter in my view.
 
I just revise for them, because I don't care, I just think how I need them to get the job I want to have a decent future - it's better than spending all my time wasted doing other things.
 
realBabelfish said:
not really. plenty of tradesmen earn much more than graduates.
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And on the flip side lots of graduate lawyer, doctors, managers, directors etc earn a lot more than your average tradesmen. I'm not really sure what this comparison proves. There are successful people on both sides.

At the end of the day studying a decent course at a decent university will open more doors than going straight into work.

Whether the person gains any benefit from this though is another question - that's more down to work ethic, desire, luck etc.
 
Fair enough, the oP it at an important point in their life whether they like it or not, its definitely a case of not just sacking it Off, you really should think about where you want your life to go in 5 or 10yrs time, a lot of people get care free after school but you really do need to consider your options

I can definitely speak with experience there
 
Jumping off the wagon here, but can anyone tell me if there is any restriction in re-taking an English Language exam when you have done it two times? I have a family member who desperately needs to get a B in GCSE Language and is being told by the Head of English that the government does not allow more than two re-takes.

Surely can't be true, even if you pay?
 
SillyHeatsink said:
Honestly? Sack the whole academic thing off. Leave school and get a trade. Join a big companies as an apprentice, earn some money, and get them to put you through your degree part time.

The alternative is to do GCSEs and A-levels and then a degree, and graduate without a clue about how to do anything in the real world.
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This isn't entirely untrue for your younger years. being late teens/early 20's earning some decent packet is great.....It's when the graduates look for jobs, and are on a higher starting wage on you when you'll think, "aww shucks, coulda been there myself!"

But ofcourse it's all situational, and down to what you'd enjoy doing more.
 
Moses said:
The stat came from the material NUS distributed, after conducting legitimate research. (They did it so they could present the findings to the Browne review... a proper thing, not something random, made-up stats could be thrown at).
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You don't think that a Union sponsored set of stats is going to be bias in anyway then?

Like all stats - they can almost represent any view you want if you have the time to make the numbers work for you (and disregard any that dont) - take a look at the small print on adverts on the TV whenever stats are mentioned - almost comical....
 
Until university, my revision consisted on getting a good nights sleep before an exam. Sometimes I didn't even get that.

Finalist at university now, and still find it very difficult to motivate myself.



Honestly though, GCSEs are a piece of cake, and no-one really cares that much about them once you have your A-levels.


To those saying you need 8A*s for Oxbridge, thats a load of rubbish. The majority of candidates that apply for Oxbridge courses are predicted 4A-A*s at A-levels. This proves they know the stuff needed to study there. Your performance at interview (btw. around 70% of applicants get through to the interview stage), and the strength of your personal statement are much much more important. It just so happens that the people who are intelligent enough to write good personal statements and impress at interviews often have high GCSEs.
 
lemonkettaz said:
Alx you said it yourself a decent course at a decent uni

Thats what im saying dont just goto uni. a lot of courses are definitely not worth the money
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Sorry maybe I went into a bit of a rant :D

Yes I agree completely, it's just a waste of money and time to do a course that will leave you in no better situation when you finish than when you started. The exception to this if you're studying something for the love of the subject or because you just don't care about the time or money. :)
 
Also to those people saying you can earn a six figure salary without going to uni and without A levels, yes people have done that but very few.

Also things are getting more and more competitive and I don't think this whole thing of a bit of experience will get you there, won't be as effective these days. In most cases you will need some sort of Higher education qualification.
 
I don't want a six figure salary, I just want a job that is secure, that I will enjoy, and gives me enough money to live a comfortable life...
 
shootersam said:
I'm a lazy sod and really can't motivate myself to revise or work. I keep putting revision off and always do homework at the last minute.

So how did you guys motivate yourselves and what was the end result?

Thanks
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Just think to yourself. "If I don't work hard now. Then I'll never work hard".
There was this guy in my class who got full A*s in his GCSE while getting sent out of the class almost every day. Thinking he could easily do this in A-levels he barely did any work in A-levels. He realised this in Year 13 and got a BBC at the end when he could've had an AAA.
 
Tibbz2 said:
Maths and physics mainly, hate English :p
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Sounds like me. I'm a year older though currently in 6th form. I'd recommend doing maths and physics and if you want a degree in, physics, maths, mech engineering, or electronic engineering. Basically anything that requires a lot of maths, do further maths because it will give you a huge upperhand against many people and also make your degree slightly less work. It also compliments physics and maths a lot at A level and will make both of those seem easier. It's hard work but definitely worth it IMO.
 
Macky said:
Sounds like me. I'm a year older though currently in 6th form. I'd recommend doing maths and physics and if you want a degree in, physics, maths, mech engineering, or electronic engineering. Basically anything that requires a lot of maths, do further maths because it will give you a huge upperhand against many people and also make your degree slightly less work. It also compliments physics and maths a lot at A level and will make both of those seem easier. It's hard work but definitely worth it IMO.
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Thanks for the opinion. I was certainly going to take Maths and Physics for A Level, and I guess my strongest 3rd option was further maths.

Not too sure about going into a degree though. My uncle is a marine engineer and his company do a very good apprenticeship, and the place I went on work experience said this area is a great area for engineering apprenticeships - especially in agriculture.
 
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