Soldato
If you genuine believe that then I’d be more than little concerned sharing the road with you.
Motorcar vs Cyclist.
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If you genuine believe that then I’d be more than little concerned sharing the road with you.
HAHA that's pretty awesome, do it!
It's weird, but I'd genuinely like to see the response of a few cyclists to this.
From the way you've described it, the manoeuvre of the cyclist was ill advised at best, however there are some junctions round here where you'll often find cars overtaking cyclists when making a right turn out of a junction, so if that's considered a reasonable thing to do, the positioning of the cyclist would surely be fine (have you got a link for Google Street view?).
It also sounds like you were aware of the cyclist's position before and when making the turn and have proceeded to move towards the cyclist when undertaking your manoeuvre. That doesn't sound like the best of ideas either, regardless of who was technically in the right. If the only option when making the turn was to squeeze out the cyclist I would argue the safest thing to do would have been to let the cyclist go first and overtake properly later.
It also sounds like you were aware of the cyclist's position before and when making the turn and have proceeded to move towards the cyclist when undertaking your manoeuvre. That doesn't sound like the best of ideas either, regardless of who was technically in the right. If the only option when making the turn was to squeeze out the cyclist I would argue the safest thing to do would have been to let the cyclist go first and overtake properly later.
Soldato
I'd have just let the cyclist move off first and be done with it. 5 seconds of my time.
I cycle, fairly often. Cyclist was in the wrong.
what do you mean ? a cyclist would normally position himself on the right , so some kind of weird moving off in parallel/overtake wouldn't be possible..
... if cyclist was adjacent on the left, an attentive driver should be able to pull away fast enough, without endangering anyone.
[... seems to be a drive-by thread too ]
It's a bit of a stretch to compare this to a typical t-junction, but turning right out of the science park here:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JBUbEYv2S5waPHyy6
You'll often find cyclists move off from the ASL and then naturally position themselves to the left and then cars will pass on their right, sometimes right at the point the road narrows past the lights on Milton road. Perhaps not directly comparable to the OP's situation but that was the type of scenario I was thinking of.
Since posting in this thread I've just remembered a case where the (nearly) exact opposite happened to me while I was out on my bike a year or two ago. Positioned to the far right of the lane at the give way marker waiting for a gap to turn right, a car came up and positioned themselves to my left and pulled out just as I did, and in doing so forced me to drop back to avoid being hit as they pulled across.
As a non cyclist, I presume you'd always stay to the right (of the lane), if you were ever turning right, and then move back over to the left of the lane until you got to the next junction?
Soldato
I'm averaging over 220 miles a week currently if that qualifies. Last single ride was 200+
If the cyclist hasn't adopted the approach of undertaking on the left then moving over to his right before leaving the junction and in turn blocking the car, then he should expect the car to likely leave the junction at the same time. At this point, it comes down to how defensive both cyclist and driver want to be. The cyclist should ideally just let the car pass on his right moving away slowly.
I don't tend to take sides, but the problem for car drivers who don't cycle is that they very often can't relate to what it feels like to be cycling on the roads at a fair pace for sometimes hours at a time, which many do. If they could experience this, I can guarantee they would show more respect for cyclists, in particular the lycra clad gang.
I just wouldn't go up the side of a car, left or right, if we were both negotiating the same junction. I'd queue behind it, wait for the driver to manoeuvre, and then negotiate the junction myself. It's just a bloody stupid spot to try and pass.
yes in that case (with the perspective of google barely recognised it .. but see it most days) I usually go on the right, but since you are joining a wide road, with a middle island, being on the left works too,
but, you have to assert your road position once you have done the turn, since two abreast in the gravel for the next lights is not viable.
( I thought there was even a recommended cycle slot/lane on the left here too ... pouring gasoline on the issue)
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Soldato
Rules of the road don't apply to cyclists you big silly!
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Oh now I see its Cambridge it makes more sense. as soon as a saw mention of Milton road 
Cyclists are even worse around there than in general, they are seemingly even more entitled there than elsewhere, some truly shocking cyclists around cambridge
Surprised no one posted the highway code here, as i said I always moved to the centre of the lane, i was taught that age about 11 in cycling proficiency in primary school!. As a cyclist in this scenario you want to effectively block the lane from anyone else thinking they can be in it with you.
"74
On the right. If you are turning right, check the traffic to ensure it is safe, then signal and move to the centre of the road. Wait until there is a safe gap in the oncoming traffic and give a final look before completing the turn. It may be safer to wait on the left until there is a safe gap or to dismount and push your cycle across the road."
Cyclists are even worse around there than in general, they are seemingly even more entitled there than elsewhere, some truly shocking cyclists around cambridge
Surprised no one posted the highway code here, as i said I always moved to the centre of the lane, i was taught that age about 11 in cycling proficiency in primary school!. As a cyclist in this scenario you want to effectively block the lane from anyone else thinking they can be in it with you.
"74
On the right. If you are turning right, check the traffic to ensure it is safe, then signal and move to the centre of the road. Wait until there is a safe gap in the oncoming traffic and give a final look before completing the turn. It may be safer to wait on the left until there is a safe gap or to dismount and push your cycle across the road."
Associate
That's exactly what i was thinking. Common sense seems to go out the window with cyclists these days.
Soldato
Anndddd back to the original point of worrying about whats legal and whose fault as opposed to doing your best to avoid an injury to another road user
From memory your posts are typically quite opinionated and struggle to the other persons point. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but certainly seems the case here.
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Don
It's simple, yes you do your utmost best as a driver to avoid knocking a cyclist or other road user either, using your reaction times and brakes, but if they put you into the position where you CANNOT avoid them, they win the Darwin award and you as the driver may have killed someone despite it not being your fault.
I do not blame the OP for getting angry at the cyclist, if it happened the way I am understanding it, cyclist was being a ****.
I do not blame the OP for getting angry at the cyclist, if it happened the way I am understanding it, cyclist was being a ****.