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Motorcycle Accident

Discussion in 'Biker's Cafe' started by QUGAELITE, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. Yaayuh!

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 5, 2010

    Posts: 19,922

    Same, well I use the rear lights as a guide and position to be seen in rear-view and right-wing mirror.
    Though tend to fall a bit further back as well if there's a lot of left-side junctions, to be seen better if someone tries to pull out behind the car in front.

    That's generally what I do anyway. But I do tend to ride to the best of the condition, sometimes you have to just think "What if" on some roads and ride differently. e.g. behind a lorry or tractor, car with rear-view blocked, van with wing mirror missing, lots of bends with minor road junctions etc.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2018
  2. Scort

    Mobster

    Joined: Feb 28, 2006

    Posts: 4,003

    Location: No longer riding an Italian

    Effectively, this is the same things I was taught - but my instructor simply explained it differently - it's dead easy to split a lane into two and them plonk yourself in the middle of the second half; if you're following a wheels patch (certainly in the rain) you could be following a very changeable route.
     
  3. Scort

    Mobster

    Joined: Feb 28, 2006

    Posts: 4,003

    Location: No longer riding an Italian

    You do indeed - I think the 'dominant' position, is just the default position they teach you to adopt - so as to give you control over your lane, and not invite a dodegy overtake form a car behind. But you have many different positions to take in the real world application - if I have an oncoming lorry or large vehicle, I will move into the middle, or left of the middle position; as you never know.
     
  4. Kreeeee

    Man of Honour

    Joined: Jul 13, 2004

    Posts: 42,128

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    For you and I, sure. But have you seen the general level of intelligence of road users? :p
     
  5. Scort

    Mobster

    Joined: Feb 28, 2006

    Posts: 4,003

    Location: No longer riding an Italian

    Well, to be fair - this only really applies to bikers, and it's in our best interest to take control of or space on the road - not wishing to tar anyone on an L plated two-wheeler; but I'm sure that this tidbit of CBT training gets filed under "don't care" (probably along with life savers!). Whereas people with a restricted/full license are likely to have it ingrained a little more - as they have simply trained longer/to a higher standard (i.e. larger cc bikes).
     
  6. bloodiedathame

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 11, 2007

    Posts: 7,722

    Location: Surrey

    That sort of positioning implies you were probably looking to overtake her....
     
  7. acemastr

    Mobster

    Joined: May 29, 2010

    Posts: 4,707

    Location: Tampa, Florida

    You're STILL adamant that it wasn't your fault entirely? your distance and lane positioning was terrible and you ran into the back of someone who didn't even make an emergency stop. If she had you'd have gone over her car at that distance!

    Go through insurance.
     
  8. Daftbrown

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 23, 2013

    Posts: 1,195

    Location: Surrey

    Just to echo what others have said... for your own good and future health, try not to ride too close to the vehicle in front.

    We all make mistakes and I've had offs that have involved other road users myself but you must bear in mind that the vehicle in front stops suddenly and you're too close, you may end up greeting that vehicle's occupants by smashing through their back window, head-first.

    The number of cars that tailgate one another on A-Roads and motorways with no clear reason (ie: Not obviously trying to 'prompt' them to change lane to allow an overtake - not that this is safe either!) is ridiculous, but they at least have crumple zones, airbags and cages to protect them. As a biker, you're largely screwed in that scenario. Stand off.