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Don't worry yourself about it
Move down south - would you do it?
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Don't worry yourself about it
Calling it a culture shift is a stretch. People in London are more numerous and busier, thus there's less time to waste and why they'll seem in a hurry, but it's not too bad unless you're the "let's stop and smell the roses every second of every day, forever" type. Look at it this way, 16hrs a day are going to be spent sleeping & working, how much of a difference can there be between two major cities in the same country to spend the remaining hours on? People mainly do the same things everywhere, just a different background to it, that's all. If anything, you'll simply have more to choose from for activities in London.
I can only speak from personal experience. Perhaps it is because they are working/travelling 16 hours a day and dont have time to stop and smell the coffee.
Do I want to live like that? No. Some people obviously do though.
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I really don't get how you're failing to understand what he said. Go and re-read it.
I'm failing to understand your post to me, not his.
NerveAgent says: Its more a big city thing than a London thing. Its due to the more transient nature of the population.
But don't let me get in the way of old fashioned stereotypes.
I reply laughing at his bitter knock on old fashioned stereotypes that they are true old fashioned or not.
You reply saying He said that there's truth to it but the reasoning was wrong.
So both you and Nerve agree that it is true and now you say about reasoning... well that is one reason he gave not all the reasons, such as old fashioned stereotypes that are true.
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I didn't state whether or not I agreed with his post. I simply pointed out the bit you seemed to miss.
All depends what your end goals are. Are you moving there, planning to leave Manchester for good or just doing it to progress your career and get experience.
I moved to London from Manchester. I can't move back north now, it's true what they say, it's grim up north.
Apart from housing there isn't much difference in cost.
I moved to London from Manchester. I can't move back north now, it's true what they say, it's grim up north.
Apart from housing there isn't much difference in cost.
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It's crowded, expensive and dirty, the people are great.
Commuting into London every day is such a dreary life.
OP - Greenwich is really nice but rental prices reflects this. I hope that the pay rise is significant if you're seriously considering the job!
And live in a boring commuter town where it's a pain going back home on a night out because the trains have stopped? The only exception may be somewhere in the Surrey region as that has far more countryside around it that isn't just plowed fields and electricity pylons.
Find somewhere on the tube, perhaps somewhere happening, like Greenwich, or alternatively on the end of a tube line. Much easier to commute in to work (especially if it's on the same line as home) and get back after work, especially in the evening/after a night out. Also a lot cheaper in commuting costs. Being at the end of a tube line means you're pretty much guaranteed a seat in and will usually be able to get a seat about halfway back as well, which makes the commute way better, especially if you don't need to change trains.
I was born and raised in one of the boring commuter towns and then spent 4 years working in London, spending 3 of those years living at the end of the central line.
It is great, but the intolerant wouldn't like it.
also OP, food and drink is a lot more in London than up north, there will also be a lot more to do, significantly more shops (if it's available in the Uk, you'll be able to find somewhere that sells it in London).
Only thing though. If you're on your own I'd argue you really need around £50kto live remotely comfortable. If you are a couple you could rent a reasonable flat and have a nice standard of living on £70k. Sounds high potentially, and you can live there on less but I think you would be sacrificing a lot of what you may enjoy in Manchester (like a clean, well looked after flat and a meal or two out each week).
All that said I left because I don't like cities. Too hectic and no decent countryside. There is only so much constant noise you can take. But that's a criticism of both London and Manchester (and most bigger cities in general).
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OP has said he doesn't go out drinking enough for it to make a difference and the trains in most major commuter towns run late enough to make this a non-issue. Some even go all the way through the night.
Oh, and just because a town is within commuting distance doesn't automatically make it boring
yes go, work and earn a bucket load of money and buy a place, hit the eject button after 10-20 years (25 for me) and kerching and win win.
retire to a lovely place anywhere else in the UK, and enjoy the rest of your life.
retire to a lovely place anywhere else in the UK, and enjoy the rest of your life.
I'm with Gilly on this one. I lived there for 12 years. Ain't no way in hell I'm going back. Especially because the bump in pay barely makes up for the bump in living costs and additional time wasted trying to get anywhere.