Moving a drain

[NoNameNoNumber]

Evening chaps,

I need to move a waste pipe round the corner as I have moved the downstairs loo... In the pic, the red is the lay of the current waste, I dug all of the rainwater waste out like I have to confirm it does indeed go to sewers and not to a soak away.
The green is the route I intend to take with the new waste. It'll enter the house to the left, not through the wall straight in front.

The problematic part is the fact that I need to get the rainwater into the new waste pipe.

Also, currently there's no way of rodding a blockage out so I intend to put a manhole in, I was thinking on the corner where the rainwater pipe takes a left, that way I could rod up or downstream either way...

Am I on the right tracks?

 

[BigBoy]

Under current regs rain water is not to go into mains sewer pipes. And should be pipes to a soak away or specific water system. (information is from my wife who works for Wessex Water our local waterboard).

 

[davido_labido]

for that one Luke, I would get someone round to take a look, by all means do the work after, but get it checked out, people have got into hot water messing with drainage systems and plumbing (pun intended).

 

[bushmins]

You don't want floaters going past the open gutter drain. Can you move that? You could redo that whole area with PVC pipe. That way you'll have a straight run to the intended drain access. Is the old stink pipe going?

Good luck you seem to be on the right track and doing a good job. Don't let the 'regs' fan bois here put you off or make you think about getting 'specialists' in to give you expensive advice!

 

[BigBoy]

No fan boi here and no specialists needed just look it up on your local water companies website.

 

[bushmins]

No fan boi here and no specialists needed just look it up on your local water companies website.

Does it really matter? He is just putting back what was already there.

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

I've got a chap coming round, like you say though Dave I'm doing all of the donkey work to keep prices down but will happily pay to get it done properly if I have to

The gutter has a U-bend to stop stinks coming up... I have no intention of digging a soakaway though, that will remain piped into sewers as it has been.

 

[davido_labido]

nice, i was gonna say, you need a working bog for the next curry night

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

Upstairs is fine dude, and the hospital is only across the road

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

You don't want floaters going past the open gutter drain. Can you move that? You could redo that whole area with PVC pipe. That way you'll have a straight run to the intended drain access. Is the old stink pipe going?

Good luck you seem to be on the right track and doing a good job. Don't let the 'regs' fan bois here put you off or make you think about getting 'specialists' in to give you expensive advice!

The plan is to use PVC yes, the OG SVP will be staying as the upstairs loo and utility still use it.

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

Under current regs rain water is not to go into mains sewer pipes. And should be pipes to a soak away or specific water system. (information is from my wife who works for Wessex Water our local waterboard).

Just checked this out, it's complete rubbish. Both under Severn Trent and Wessex (the two authorities I checked) it is assumed that all surface water goes to sewerage, you can book a site visit if you have soak aways, water buts or a dyke or something your surface water drains to and you can get a rebate on your bill.

References
Wessex Water
Severn Trent Water

 

[davido_labido]

I just asked the friend that got into trouble with his plumbing what exactly the problem was....

when he changed his underground tubing he managed to somehow block the flow of water from his next doors house (are they all linked under your garden or something???) so he had to pay for all of that to be sorted out.... not exactly the same kind of story as i thought tbh but just make sure you don't do the same haha

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

Ha that's a bit rough... Yeah the neighbours stuff is no where to be seen, still it needs doing right

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

I've added another picture, hope that clears a few things up?

So the waste I drew on in green, that is fairly simple yeah. How do I connect the rain water? Hard to tell if this Bottle Gulley has a trap in it or whether it's open and I'd see turds floating past...

For the chamber, on the bend before it joins up with the waste from the SVP one of these Chambers with the associated riser and lid should do the trick there?

 

[john_s]

You'd usually run the gulley into the pipe run with a Y-junction, so you'd not see the floaters passing by.

You should also have an access point (inspection chamber or manhole) at the change of direction on a drain.

Generally Building Control will want to inspect drainage before it's covered up. Might be worth a check with your local Building Control.

 

[NoNameNoNumber]

Plan has changed a little, I'm going to dig a soak away 6m from the house, coincidentally following the line of the plastic pipe sat atop the dirt pile in the 2nd pic. This will be as big as I can be arsed to make it, somewhere around the 1.5m³ mark. Filled with rubble

Then it's just a straight run for the turds with an inspection cover on the corner where the red line starts.

 

[Windle]

Just checked this out, it's complete rubbish. Both under Severn Trent and Wessex (the two authorities I checked) it is assumed that all surface water goes to sewerage, you can book a site visit if you have soak aways, water buts or a dyke or something your surface water drains to and you can get a rebate on your bill.

References
Wessex Water
Severn Trent Water

He's half right but the legislation he's referring to applies to new builds which now do need to have separate surface and foul drainage. It wouldn't apply in this case ie mod to existing system