Moving from Android to Nokia (symbian)

Symbian is supported until 2016. Anna is due August, with Belle in 2012.

Date 100% doesn't matter, it's outsourced to Accenture and the networks won't touch it with a stick for anything high end. They know the writing's on the wall, the latest Nokia is not bringing in the punters, its a volume thing. Channel is flooded with the stuff, no network is buying it up because it's EOL. Networks are flogging stock off cheap.

Aside from the obviously huge disparity in your handset comparison going on in this thread (one launched for £100, the other >£400) people seem to be ignoring the fact that it's an 9 month old phone. Technology moved on, a lot, which is why the forum is probably trying to steer you away from this choice.

It was an OK phone but time moved on and networks still sell this as they need people who only stick to one brand to keep with them. I think a review title put the N8 perfectly:

Nokia N8 review: like hardware? You'll love this. Like software? Ah...
 
SGS2 has a good camera too and the best Video Camera.

No doubt it does but touch screen shutter buttons suck and no Xenon flash is a big let down really. Especially when the one of the OP's primary requirements is Imaging.

google nav is good too

Its not bad but not being able to cache the maps locally is a royal pain. Nokia's method is far superior in execution.

I've also found all the Android handsets I've owned to be extremely patchy with GPS pickup.

My Desire HD is a lottery as to whether I'm going to get a lock or not and has been since I bought it, I had a Galaxy S previous to that which was the same as was the Hero I had before that.

I've also owned a Motorola Milestone which was flawless with GPS locks so I guess it could be a chip related thing.

The wifes N8 never fails and normally locks before Ovi Maps has finished loading up.

I much prefer my Desire HD to the wifes N8 btw, its just for the 2 specific functions mentioned above its probably the best on the market atm.
 
No doubt it does but touch screen shutter buttons suck and no Xenon flash is a big let down really. Especially when the one of the OP's primary requirements is Imaging.



Its not bad but not being able to cache the maps locally is a royal pain. Nokia's method is far superior in execution.

I've also found all the Android handsets I've owned to be extremely patchy with GPS pickup.

My Desire HD is a lottery as to whether I'm going to get a lock or not and has been since I bought it, I had a Galaxy S previous to that which was the same as was the Hero I had before that.

I've also owned a Motorola Milestone which was flawless with GPS locks so I guess it could be a chip related thing.

The wifes N8 never fails and normally locks before Ovi Maps has finished loading up.

I much prefer my Desire HD to the wifes N8 btw, its just for the 2 specific functions mentioned above its probably the best on the market atm.

I never navigated anywhere without using data with Ovi maps on my old E72, though. Or is that just map 'corrections'?
 
Google Nav DOES cache maps, simply enable the map cache option. My map tile cache is currently 52MB since my last ROM install.

englishpremier said:
One of the things i don't like about android is being presented with a wall of apps rather than them being categorised e.g tools, office etc.. It also seems you need an app for stuff that I think should be in the OS as standard, e.g a calc, alarm, converter, file manager, not pad.

Both of those are standard on all Android devices. As for file manager/converter/notepad etc, there are loads of apps on the Market. I'd much rather choose one to my liking than have to root and uninstall the system one because I much prefer 3rd party ones.

This isn't a big deal, certainly nowhere near the level some folk seem to make it out to be because the whole point of Android is to have it how you want your phone to be with the apps you want.

Now I know Sense/Touchwhiz etc try to combine aspects and apps (hubs, social integration etc) to do a lot of the work for you but I've never been fond of bundled apps.

Plus you can get a better looking app by going 3rd party AND take it with you to your next handset in 12-24 months time without worrying whether the next phone has the same stock app.

Not really, the sound recording is poor (a massive negative in my eyes), however 1080p is pretty good I must say.

Sound recording is average out of the box but much better (44.1KHz @ 192kbps) with the modified camera apk from XDA. Yes it's mono recording only (hey, a Canon EOS 7D DSLR only has a mono microphone built in too) but it's still very high quality once you install the modded apk which is very easy to do. The mic becomes more sensitive to treble and pics up deeper bass. Want samples? Just ask...
 
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I never navigated anywhere without using data with Ovi maps on my old E72, though. Or is that just map 'corrections'?

Thats because you've got Assisted GPS turned on. Also some of the POI's, traffic info etc use data as well.

Turn them of and you don't need a data connection.
 
English, how are you getting on with the N8? currently got a SF and have been looking at the N8 and SGS2

There is virtually no contest between them unless the N8 provides something you specifically require, like the superior camera or offline sat nav, etc.
 
One of the things i don't like about android is being presented with a wall of apps rather than them being categorised e.g tools, office etc.. It also seems you need an app for stuff that I think should be in the OS as standard, e.g a calc, alarm, converter, file manager, not pad.

If anything, I'd say that's more true of iOS than it is Android, but even iOS has those sorts of basics (as does Android of course). You can create folders yourself and categorise apps to your heart's content.
 
English, how are you getting on with the N8? currently got a SF and have been looking at the N8 and SGS2

No contest. The N8 is far superior than the SF, but at 4x the price you'd expect it to be. The build quality and feel and weight is excellent. The camera of course is amazing as is video after a couple of mods.

Symbian is, well symbian. It's clunky more like a computer OS than modern Android, but it gets the job done just fine. If you've not used symbian before you'll be in for a shock, but I have 4 years experience with it, so actually feel very comfortable.

The browser is absolute tosh, get opera on there right away. The screen, while better, has a lower resolution, so if you're browsing a lot, you might find that a bit of pain.


Media player and video is far superior to the SF and apps i've used in android (standard music app, poweramp, mplayer).

I would say that the GPS is better, but after a few work arounds i got my SF gps to lock pretty fast. I reckon the Nokia is a little quicker to lock though.

Haven't had it long enough to do a full assessment on battery life, but initial thoughts are positive and seems to be much better than the SF (which isn't hard).

Still keeping the SF so that I can dabble with android from time to time.
Overall its great, but a little clunky. It does everything you want pretty well though.

@DIABLO - why should i have to make folders? I sybian my stuff was automatically in folders. Symbian just works, with no tinkering at all. It's not slick, it's not flash, but functional. If you like to tinker then stick with Android. if you want pure functionality then symbian works just fine. Neither is better than the other, just different with different approaches.
 
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Those camera mods are good.

Continuous autofocus is something I would never want to lose now I'm used to it on the SGS2!
 
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