MP Gaming -- would you cheat if you could?

Surfer said:
ok ffs ill give you an example. :/

i'm in a server and everything is "fine". Usual regulars are on and the usual folk rise to the top with their skills. Its the natural order of things no cheaters and everyones having fun.

I leave server - load "admin.cfg" and re-enter. I see 3 of the top regular clan players playing at shooting each other through the walls. All the time making direct beelines for each other on the map avoiding hidden campers etc. I play a game with one where i camp at one room he approaches from the corridor (behind wall) he stops, glances at me (through wall) runs and sprint jumps into the corner and attempts to headshot me in mid-air....

A blind man thinks its sunshine and blue sky every bloody day... is the blind man wrong?
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I don't get the point of your story other than some people need to be banned :/
 
By all means hack...but ideally do it on a server where others are also doing the same so you're on a level playing field, though of course I can't that happening. Otherwise all it does is make you look a pratt and ruin the game for others who are playing without cheats.
 
Tefal said:
then demos are made and posted alongside the ban notices on the server's forums...


as has happens every so often on every forum linked to a server.
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Unfortunately its not that simple when players are respected members of community. But ive said my peace on this subject.
 
Surfer said:
Unfortunately its not that simple when players are respected members of community. But ive said my peace on this subject.
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Thats why you get people from outside the community to comment.

The guy we caught hacking, it was pathetic, people backing him up saying that they believe him when he says he doesn't hack without ever looking at the evidence. Anyone could've seen how his aim would shake around a target when using an automatic weapon so the bullets would always hit dead centre. Anyone could see how his Run n Gun with the Hunting Rifle was hitting zombies in the head WAY too often despite the fact the shot could hit any location over about 1/4 of the screen.
 
Nickg said:
i dont get it, whats funny about admitting you have special needs?
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You're right, I have a special need to watch a bunch of little kids rage over a game I care zilch about.

Speedhacking IS well funny tho.. zipping round at 100mph while ze little babies cry some moar. At least it's honest hacking; nobody can mistake you for being naturally talented and they can all leave server if they have a problem. Aimbotting on the other hand is just a sad attempt to convince others that you're better than you really are. Completely different kettles of worms imo.
 
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Souness said:
You're right, I have a special need to watch a bunch of little kids rage over a game I care zilch about.

Speedhacking IS well funny tho.. zipping round at 100mph while ze little babies cry some moar. At least it's honest hacking; nobody can mistake you for being naturally talented and they can all leave server if they have a problem. Aimbotting on the other hand is just a sad attempt to convince others that you're better than you really are. Completely different kettles of worms imo.
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I can only hope you're banned from all OcUK servers.
 
Souness said:
You're right, I have a special need to watch a bunch of little kids rage over a game I care zilch about.

Speedhacking IS well funny tho.. zipping round at 100mph while ze little babies cry some moar. At least it's honest hacking; nobody can mistake you for being naturally talented and they can all leave server if they have a problem. Aimbotting on the other hand is just a sad attempt to convince others that you're better than you really are. Completely different kettles of worms imo.
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yet another queer
 
I remember as a regular on a CS server, one of the other regulars got auto kicked by the server anti cheat. He got let back in, apparently he was just trying it out.:confused:

As long as its not blatantly obvious, I assume everyones on a level playing field just so I can enjoy the game. Was a blatant aimbot hacker on MW2 last night, but theres no point getting worked up over it, as it stands on MW2 you cant do jack. Who can kick people in those games/lobbies? theres an option but its never clickable. Most you can do is mute them, :eek: and tell everyone.

Big crap though this matchmaking lark, left that lobby and ended up in the same game as him later.
 
You're right, I have a special need to watch a bunch of little kids rage over a game I care zilch about.
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no you have special needs because you cannot compete on a level playing field, you are in some way inferior and therefore require special rules to allow you to stand a chance vs other people.

if you care zilch about it, why did you buy said game and why do you continue to play it. like i say, you must be very special.
 
Surfer said:
Unfortunately its not that simple when players are respected members of community. But ive said my peace on this subject.
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it always was on the servers i played on there would be a lot of :eek:' smilies and wow but after watching the demo (which would have to be conclusive0 everyone just agreed and carried on as normal.
 
i can see the funny side of cheating maybe messing about with a few mates, but if your alone at home and just want some honest skilled gaming whats the point???
 
No. Cheating ruins games for other players on the server, often those on your own team as well.

Single player games I have been known to cheat on when I got bored of them, but not multiplayer.
 
AWPC said:
Way to tell if someone is using one in your game is if their accuracy for head shots especially is 100% then what you do is spin around as that confuses the aim bot and it takes a while to lock back onto you then head fo cover and kick them as well as report the user to get them banned.
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Only works with script kiddies; experienced cheaters aren't gonna have it active all the time.They're more likely to use nospread or something more undetectable.

james.miller said:
dont be obtuse. there's no challange involved in using an aimbot. there's not even room for discussion. The only people who wouldnt clean up with an aimbot are the sort of people who shouldnt be playing the game full stop, for everybody else - no challange.
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If you think there's no challenge, you've probably never heard of JAPS or any other cheating community. There mission is to develop better cheats that VAC can't detect and go into cheating servers or normal servers with cheaters and beat other cheaters. It might not be a challenge to you, but it is to them.


james.miller said:
Surfer, honestly? LOL
what does an aimbot do? target assisting of varing levels, from a little to boomheadeshot. Is this difficult to understand? no it isn't.
Wallhacks? well lets see i think...and correct me if im wrong here.... but i think it allows you to see through walls, to see enemy positions when you otherwise wouldnt.
two for two so far surfer?
So what else is there that i have "no idea what they do", or my "phenominally simplistic outlook" can't comprehend?
Bit of advice Surfer, this is online cheating, not astrophysics - stop with the crap.
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Nospread, norecoil, esp, lag management, nokick, different wallhacks, different aimbots, various speedhacks, too many to mention. To you cheating might be black and white, but within cheat communities they discuss cheating tactics on levels that are equal to normal clans discussing game tactics.

james.miller said:
you might be behind a wall - aimbot would still aim. you might be behind a barrel or some other piece of scenery - aimbot would still aim. does that change the difficulty? no. would you die in that situation? maybe not. But would i shoot you dead every time i had a clear shot if i were using an aimbot? oh you can put money on it. No challange, no reward, no fun.
try harder.
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Try harder. Aimbot locks to head or other designated part of the player model. You'd need nospread to hit it every time.

Evilsod said:
Your trying to argue theres a whole grey area with cheating. Cheating is black or white, you are or you aren't. Detection is an entirely different thing altogether, at the end of the day your still either cheating or your not. Being **** and cheating with a crappy public hack or being awesome and cheating with a paid multihack, it makes difference, your still cheating.
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You're on a non-cheat server. There's no mods, but the rules of the server are "No claymores". Someone uses claymores, so they're breaking the rules of the server but not actually doing anything to alter the game. Are they cheating?
 
Swi1ch said:
You're on a non-cheat server. There's no mods, but the rules of the server are "No claymores". Someone uses claymores, so they're breaking the rules of the server but not actually doing anything to alter the game. Are they cheating?
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Are you being deliberately retarded? Given the rest of your post i would assume so. Deliberately breaking server rules isn't cheating, but it'd get you kicked/banned regardless. I've seen countless Noobtubers/Martyrtards on MW servers which explicitely say not to use them. If theres an admin online, its 1 warning and goodbye, cheaters don't get that warning.

Frankly, who gives a toss about cheating communities, they're obviously just a bunch of morons anyway. Maybe morons that are good at coding, but morons none the less. Something that will really give you satisfaction later in life: "Hey guys, i've spent my life developing cheats for online games because i suck too much to play them properly"
 
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