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MSI 7970 OC Issues

My CPU is at stock at the min while I'm on air so it's at 2.6 and Ram is at stock also, 1066. What could be causing the stuttering? I'm going to try a different HDD and my old ram tomorrow to see if that helps. I really don't want to RMA my card.
 
Ahhh in that case its probably about right (the score).

It may be why its stuttering, 2.6ghz - 1066 from a single core performance POV isn't mind-blowing, that said L4D2 isn't exactly a CPU intensive game...
 
Ahhh in that case its probably about right (the score).

It may be why its stuttering, 2.6ghz - 1066 from a single core performance POV isn't mind-blowing, that said L4D2 isn't exactly a CPU intensive game...

Make sure you have multicore rendering enabled in L4D2.
 
Ahhh in that case its probably about right (the score).

It may be why its stuttering, 2.6ghz - 1066 from a single core performance POV isn't mind-blowing, that said L4D2 isn't exactly a CPU intensive game...

Yeah, plus it wasn't doing it before. What sort of Overclock could I push on stock air do you think to see if it does improve things? Gutted, I was really looking forward to getting it all under water this weekend.

Thanks for all your help by the way.
 
stock volts 3.6/3.8 depending on CPU.

edit just read stock air do you mean stock heatsink if so i wouldn't overclock it at all, the stock heatsink could barely cool the chip if you undervolted it :( (*hold head in hands remembering why i didn't use intel for 2 years)
 
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Make sure you have multicore rendering enabled in L4D2.

Try this, been a loooong time since I fired up a L4D game so I'm somewhat unaware of the options available. If its disabled a single 2.6ghz single core might not be doing a GPU as fast as a 7970 any favours.

Yeah, plus it wasn't doing it before. What sort of Overclock could I push on stock air do you think to see if it does improve things? Gutted, I was really looking forward to getting it all under water this weekend.

Thanks for all your help by the way.

See below

stock volts 3.6/3.8 depending on CPU.

I'd go with this, though I haven't clocked on X58 before so I'm not 100% sure what clock ranges you should be looking at. I do keep meaning to buy one for a second rig.
 
Ahhh in that case its probably about right (the score).

It may be why its stuttering, 2.6ghz - 1066 from a single core performance POV isn't mind-blowing, that said L4D2 isn't exactly a CPU intensive game...

All source games are much more cpu intensive than gpu. I'd say its definitely cpu related.

Op did you try without vsync?
 
All source games are much more cpu intensive than gpu. I'd say its definitely cpu related.

Op did you try without vsync?

Really? I didn't know this, was under the assumption source was GPU focused :)

Looks like we have found the problem in that case.
 
I enabled multi-core in L4D2. Yes it's the stock HSF so I won't bother overclocking. Yes I've tried with vsync off too and again I get the stuttering and big frame drops. Plus before I installed HL2 E2 it was all fine. Installing Just Cause 2 to see how that plays.
 
I enabled multi-core in L4D2. Yes it's the stock HSF so I won't bother overclocking. Yes I've tried with vsync off too and again I get the stuttering and big frame drops. Plus before I installed HL2 E2 it was all fine.

Strange, any chance you've installed an additional hard drive recently?
 
Strange, any chance you've installed an additional hard drive recently?

This has just triggered something in my brain :p

A few weeks ago I was getting random stutters and load times where I shouldn't be getting them. I turns out my windows power setting was set to shut down a hard drive after 20mins, so the drive was having to spin up from dead mid game to load any extras....worth checking. Set it to disable and now it doesn't happen any more.
 
Strange, any chance you've installed an additional hard drive recently?

Nope, Just got an SSD I use for OS and games and a 1TB drive for videos / music and photos.

This has just triggered something in my brain :p

A few weeks ago I was getting random stutters and load times where I shouldn't be getting them. I turns out my windows power setting was set to shut down a hard drive after 20mins, so the drive was having to spin up from dead mid game to load any extras....worth checking. Set it to disable and now it doesn't happen any more.

Already tried that one. :)
 
Nope, Just got an SSD I use for OS and games and a 1TB drive for videos / music and photos.



Already tried that one. :)

Story time...

I had an ssd with hdd. My OS and source games on the ssd. Playing CSS I kept noticing stutter, maybe what you're experiencing.

In the end I tried with the ssd on its own and no stutter, also the hdd on its own.. again no problem.

I think its if your hard drive spins down during idle (not necessarily because of windows settings) then it decides to do something you'll get stutter. Doesn't explain why it only started happening on your pc after installing half life 2 though. Try disconnect the hard drive and see if it goes away.
 
Story time...

I had an ssd with hdd. My OS and source games on the ssd. Playing CSS I kept noticing stutter, maybe what you're experiencing.

In the end I tried with the ssd on its own and no stutter, also the hdd on its own.. again no problem.

I think its if your hard drive spins down during idle (not necessarily because of windows settings) then it decides to do something you'll get stutter. Doesn't explain why it only started happening on your pc after installing half life 2 though. Try disconnect the hard drive and see if it goes away.

Ok will do. I did have an additional HDD connected but it was a external docking bay but wasn't powered on. I've also tried running audio through HDMI instead and doing them two things have made the issue a little better, not perfect but better. It seems to be the first 1-2 mins of a level on L4D2 where the frames can drop easily and then it seems to steady and improve the longer I play. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone, great stuff as per usual.
 
Unplugged HDD and it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Just put Just Cause 2 on and ran the benchmark at max settings, vsync on and it stayed at 60 / 59.9 apart from near the end when I got a small stutter and it went down to 58.7. Just played 20 mins of the game and it's been on 60 / 59.9 and 59.8 the whole time, pretty much 60. Maybe its just Direct X 9 games that's causing issues?
 
havn't read all the thread but your original post mentioned the ram score dropping,have you pulled 6gb of ram and tested gaming with just 6gb to see if stuttering still happens?

this card could be pushing your memory more esp with the full 12gb,idk how much dram/vtt your using with 12gb?

manually setting your uncore frequency to twice what your memory multiplier is and adding one to it will help so for example an 8x mem multi would be 2x +1 = 17x uncore freq
 
havn't read all the thread but your original post mentioned the ram score dropping,have you pulled 6gb of ram and tested gaming with just 6gb to see if stuttering still happens?

this card could be pushing your memory more esp with the full 12gb,idk how much dram/vtt your using with 12gb?

manually setting your uncore frequency to twice what your memory multiplier is and adding one to it will help so for example an 8x mem multi would be 2x +1 = 17x uncore freq

Have you ran memtest for a few passes on each ram stick individually?

I currently have 3 sticks of 4gb Corsair dominator ram. I'll take them out tonight and put the 6gb of same ram I have in to see if that helps. I'll run memtest also. I thought about clocking ram and messing with some settings but it wasnt doing this before so I can't see why all of a sudden it now needs it.
 
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