Multi-Tools - Leatherman

Fett said:
Irregardless of length, if it locks, it's illegal to carry without a reasonable reason
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Not a problem than is it. Anyone can think of a reasonable reason to carry one. "its a handy tool to have around in case anything breaks or needs fixing"

Unless you stab someone no one is going to question you having a multi tool.
 
I did have a leatherman when i used to go hunting, I found the blade dulled very quickly and I eventually swapped it for a 3" gerber knife which is a brilliant bit of kit.
 
Tefal said:
Thought you weren't allowed a knife of any length on a plane?
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I can I'm an engineer.

Weirdly I can take my leatherman through security and an old style sharp can opener but I'm not allowed to take a spoon, fork or metal knife to eat my dinner.

They also make us remove our belts to check for knives even though I have a knife hanging on my belt.

Leathermen ok
Yoghurt NO NO lethal weapon
 
The question the OP asked...

Dogoid said:
oh and whats the law about the blade on it, as it locks.
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dannyjo22 said:
The knife is legal, I go through airport security nearly everyday with mine.
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It is not legal unless you have a reason to carry it. I'm repeating myself here because just stating that it's legal is actually wrong. If you are an engineer and carry a multi-tool through security, it's probably not an issue for you. That does not justify many other circumstances where you would be in the **** if you were carrying it in a public place.

dannyjo22 said:
You will have no problems it's under the legal 3 inch length. Quite a few divers I know use them as well. :)
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You are confusing the sub 3" non-locking legal parameters with the illegal locking issue.

dannyjo22 said:
Not a problem than is it. Anyone can think of a reasonable reason to carry one. "its a handy tool to have around in case anything breaks or needs fixing"

Unless you stab someone no one is going to question you having a multi tool.
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Not really. You stop off at the pub on the way home, you forget you have your Leatherman on you and there is a bit of aggro, say you get searched. Justify a locking blade to a cop will be an issue. Same if you took it to a footie match, a festival, a school etc. You really have to have a really good reason (work) to have it. Justifying a multi-tool in a club is, again, going to be a real pita. Especially as G.Brown as of January has pushed heavily for prosecution instead of confiscation and a warning.

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According to section 139, subsections 4&5 of The Criminal justice Act 1988....
(4) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had good reason or lawful authority for having the article with him in a public place.
(5) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (4) above, it shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under this section to prove that he had the article with him—
a. for use at work;
b. for religious reasons; or
c. as part of any national costume.

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Anything outside of those 3 reasons and the onus is totally on you to provide a very good reason. From the Cambridgeshire Constabulary site:

It is illegal to carry any sharp or bladed instrument in a public place (with the exception of a folding pocket knife, which has a blade that is less than 7.62cm or 3 inches). A lock knife is NOT a folding pocket knife and therefore it is illegal to carry these knives regardless of the length of the blade. Possession of a lock knife in a public place without reasonable excuse IS an offence.


Possession of a multi-tool incorporating a prohibited blade/pointed article is capable of being an offence under this section even if there are other tools on the instrument which may be of use to a person in a public place (screwdriver, can opener). It is for the person to prove on the balance of probabilities that he/she had good reason for possession.

The penalty for committing this offence is a minimum six month prison sentence, or maximum of two years and/or a fine.
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Even engineers carrying multi-tools have problems...
"A member of OB staff was arrested in Wimbledon for carrying a Leatherman multi-tool in his bag (he was later released without charge). Some Leatherman multi-tools are classed as lock-knives, to which the Criminal Justice Act 1988 applies. Exclusions exist for people carrying such knives for work purposes, religious reasons or as part of a national costume. While the work-related exclusion may apply for most staff, the exclusions are based on a case by case basis, and are not a blanket exclusion.

As such, staff should not carry such tools in public, as “work related purposes” may be hard to justify in a public place e.g. a café or public house."
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Hell, you can work for the MoD for 35 years and still get hassled...http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article643848.ece
 
its a stupid law because people who are likely use a instrument like this to injure people, are people who think they will not get caught at the time of the act.

its no deterrent at all and there should be a law to ban chav mothers having chav babies.
 
If you are stopped by police with a knife that locks, no matter how long it is, and you say that you have it on you because "its a handy tool to have around in case anything breaks or needs fixing", you will be arrested.
 
I had a Swiss army knife, almost brand new that I got on travels around europe. A few months later I was going through an airport and genuinely forgot it was in my back pocket.

They confiscated it and said 'Kaput!' as he threw it down the chute. This was in '04.
 
whitecrook said:
I had a Swiss army knife, almost brand new that I got on travels around europe. A few months later I was going through an airport and genuinely forgot it was in my back pocket.

They confiscated it and said 'Kaput!' as he threw it down the chute. This was in '04.
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That seems a bit odd, when I've been through UK airports they offer a service to post it back to your home (albeit at an extortionate price). I've never taken them up on it mind, in my case it was a set of clippers with a knife less than 1" attached, quite frankly if I could have taken over an airline with that then I probably deserve some credit for sheer guts. I don't know what the policy is outside the UK though about returning items.
 
Leathermans are lovely peices of kit, I was given a Supertool 200 as a leaving present from my last job years ago and is still as sharp and in perfect condition despite being used almost daily.

As such, staff should not carry such tools in public, as “work related purposes” may be hard to justify in a public place e.g. a café or public house."
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Well that's me knackered then, I work in pubs and clubs all day with a leatherman attached to my belt :p (I'm an engineer and as such do have a legitimate reason to carry it whilst at work, I never carry it on days off as I have no need. [gunlobby]Anyone wishing to confiscate it will have to pry it from my cold dead fingers[/gunlobby] :D )
 
The amount of times I've been up a ladder or in a roofspace and thought "barrh, I left xxx down there" and the Leathermann has saved me.

I end up using mine whenever possible, and would be another in a heartbeat :)

Nice present!
 
Dogoid said:
i love the look of this one

http://www.leatherman.com/products/tools/skeletool-cx/default.asp
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I like the look of that Leatherman as well.

I have a bit of thing for Swiss Army Knives, have owned one since I was a kid, I currently have five different ones.

I use this one everyday at work and when I'm out of the office or on-site etc.

http://www.swisstool.co.uk/st/product.php?productid=329&cat=250&page=1&gclid=CLG3ks6i0ZECFQ9QQgodACLp1g

I have took it to different countries, but always in my checked-in bags !
 
semi-pro waster said:
That seems a bit odd, when I've been through UK airports they offer a service to post it back to your home (albeit at an extortionate price). I've never taken them up on it mind, in my case it was a set of clippers with a knife less than 1" attached, quite frankly if I could have taken over an airline with that then I probably deserve some credit for sheer guts. I don't know what the policy is outside the UK though about returning items.
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Yeah sucks. Was brussels (charleroi) I said at the time - can I post it back? but he either didn't understand, pretended not to understand, or just couldn't be bothered. :/
 
sorry to bumpage an almost 1 year old thread :eek::eek:

ive been looking into buying a multi tool the last week and been doing some reading, i think i defo want a leatherman and the Juice S2 looks very nice,

been having a look at the prices of it and it costs almost the same as the Wave :confused: and non listed on auction site which is very odd.

Wave being the better tool, so should i just go for the wave then?

or can anyone recommend me any other model? budget is MAX £60, dont a need corkscrew tool on it.

Thanks!
 
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