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I’m after some advice. I’m looking to upgrade my storage and have multiple back ups. I’m in the process of buying a Mac Mini. My process would be:

- Back up Mac Mini daily.
- Have two Hard Drives that would store files that I need but don’t need access to all of the time. Then have another set of hard drives that mirror those hard drives.

- Then have another set of hard drives that back them up. Like a none destructive back up.

Then have a external hard drive that’s not on the network.

Is this possible at all as I’ve some family photos, videos and memories that I would like to keep hold of.
 
You’ve massively over complicated this. Let’s deal with the obvious, the Mac mini has local storage and stores photos on iCloud anyway, so that’s potentially on and off-site backup with protection against accidental deletion etc. out of the box, assuming you either pay for appropriate storage, or live within the free tier (unlikely). In the event of fire or theft, you loose nothing, because your photos are still on iCloud where they sync as soon as they are taken, same with files saved in a protected folder.

For most people, that’s probably all they should ever need, but chucking in a NAS with parity protected storage, perhaps running something like Immich either locally, or ideally offsite adds a out of ecosystem layer of protection. The best form of backup is one you never need to touch beyond initially setting it up and testing it, anything that requires human intervention/action is a flawed system.
 
Anything is possible. You've looked at options for possible deletion of the files or guarding against corruption, but nothing regarding fire or flood at home.
 
Any kind of NAS that has 2 or more drive bays for Raid1 is your first backup.

Then get a single larger external hard drive and back up to that as well - keep this off site (even if just in your car or round a family members house)

Even better add a 3rd back up to a cloud service, so that you have copies in 3 different places, and make sure the backups are at different intervals. E.g. the Nas has daily backups, the cloud backup every week, and the external usb could be once a month.
Different time frames gives you point in time recovery e.g. if you accidentally delete something or find corruption at any stage.
 
Any kind of NAS that has 2 or more drive bays for Raid1 is your first backup.

Then get a single larger external hard drive and back up to that as well - keep this off site (even if just in your car or round a family members house)

Even better add a 3rd back up to a cloud service, so that you have copies in 3 different places, and make sure the backups are at different intervals. E.g. the Nas has daily backups, the cloud backup every week, and the external usb could be once a month.
Different time frames gives you point in time recovery e.g. if you accidentally delete something or find corruption at any stage.

That sounds good.
 
You’ve massively over complicated this. Let’s deal with the obvious, the Mac mini has local storage and stores photos on iCloud anyway, so that’s potentially on and off-site backup with protection against accidental deletion etc. out of the box, assuming you either pay for appropriate storage, or live within the free tier (unlikely). In the event of fire or theft, you loose nothing, because your photos are still on iCloud where they sync as soon as they are taken, same with files saved in a protected folder.

For most people, that’s probably all they should ever need, but chucking in a NAS with parity protected storage, perhaps running something like Immich either locally, or ideally offsite adds a out of ecosystem layer of protection. The best form of backup is one you never need to touch beyond initially setting it up and testing it, anything that requires human intervention/action is a flawed system.

Right. Sorry for the over complication. I’m just trying to eliminate any possible data corruption or loss of media.
 
Right. Sorry for the over complication. I’m just trying to eliminate any possible data corruption or loss of media.
Erm… nothing you have suggested said that was part of your requirement, and honestly, no mention of basic things like UPS, ECC, redundant connections, fault tolerant storage, detection of bit-rot/flip and multi-site replication, or the hardware budget kind of lead me to think this is another one of your famous pipe dream ‘what if’ post? Happy to spend time on it if not, but we’ve been down this road in several of your threads previously, and all seem to have been very similar.
 
Erm… nothing you have suggested said that was part of your requirement, and honestly, no mention of basic things like UPS, ECC, redundant connections, fault tolerant storage, detection of bit-rot/flip and multi-site replication, or the hardware budget kind of lead me to think this is another one of your famous pipe dream ‘what if’ post? Happy to spend time on it if not, but we’ve been down this road in several of your threads previously, and all seem to have been very similar.

I would be interested in spending time on it as it’s something that I would like to set up. None of my other threads have been similar to this. It seems as though you’re trying to pick holes in me asking a genuine question.
 
I’ll have a look into some of the suggestions that have been made. It seems some members like to pick holes and assert themselves as being more knowledgeable. Which then leaves the thread going a little cold and people not wanting to help. Everyone had to start somewhere.
 
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