Musing: Can anyone learn to master any skill?

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With enough time and dedication, can anyone learn to master anything?

Or can some people naturally do some things, and some people can't, and thats just the way it is? No amount of forcing the issue will make them a master of a chosen craft?

There are going to be exceptions, physical barriers, someone with severe asthma probably won't win the 100M sprint in the Olympics for example. For the purposes of this discussion I am not talking about those examples.

There are clearly people with natural ability, for instance people who can learn to play an instrument quicker than others, but everyone has to learn in order to play that instrument. With enough time and dedication, could those people to whom it doesn't come naturally, the slow learners, become a master?

Could you pick a person at random in the street, and could they become fluent in Cantonese if they wanted to? Or become a master boat builder? Wood turner? Swimmer? Racing driver? Queen wasp killer? MAC10 acquirer? Can anyone learn how to give a lady the full Tony Williams Experience?

You get the idea.

Is the barrier the natural ability, or the dedication, the persistance, the practice?

Perhaps we all have the natural ability to do one thing really well, and the people who become masters are the people whos interests happen to align with that ability?

My personal experiences which provoked these thoughts in spoiler, because they aren't strictly helpful for the discussion! Read if you wish!

I started to play guitar when I was about 9 years old (I'm now 24) - I plucked away for a few years, had tuition on and off, that sort of thing. I gradually played less and less and at some point when I was about 15 or 16 I stopped playing. I just recently picked up the guitar again, and I haven't forgotten much of what I learned. It makes me wonder. If I had stuck with it... If I had forced myself to practice day in day out... You know?

But it doesn't come naturally to me, I can tell. I am definitely learning slowly. There are people who have only been playing a year who have long since surpassed my ability.

On the other hand I borrowed a drum kit from a friend a few years ago, and I felt like that did come naturally to me, I am very good at keeping rhytm, I always tap away at my desk or my thighs at particular bits in songs, and I could do drum covers of some songs within days if not hours. I'm sure it would take some people months to reach the point I reached (and I'm not claiming I was good!)

I didn't stick with it because it isn't the instrument I wanted to learn to play.

A couple of years ago I won £60 by rapping faster than Eminem did in Rap God. I am a pound-shop Jack Black lookalike who had never listened to a rap song in his life, and the bet was put to me because I appeared to be the farthest thing from a rapper, but I stuck with it, I got reasonably good at it, and I won the bet.

No I will not post a recording... :p
 
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For example, someone with brain damage affecting their motor skills won't be able to master the skills required to perform complex surgery. Etc, etc.

I specifically excluded such cases in my opening post. :)


I'm thick as **** but have managed to learn guitar.

If I watch someone play like this, I realise that I can't even physically move my fingers that fast, let alone land them accurately on the right notes at the right times... (skip to 1:00) :p


I feel like this is about as good as I could perhaps get. I can actually move my fingers this fast, and play some bits of this song already... (Skip to 2:25)


At the moment I mostly play songs like this which don't have any complicated solos but are still satisfying to belt out. (Skip to 0:20)

 
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I could never rap in 100 years my brains not wired that way. ha!

I thought that. Dont know unless you try!

The hardest bit is saying each individual word clearly instead of letting the words blend into each other. And actually injecting some timing, rhythm and tonality. The latter-most of which i struggle with!

If there are lots of words in a verse which start with the same letter it makes it easier.

Rap God is much, much harder to rap despite having less words per minute, and less beats per minute in the "fast bit" ...
 
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To be honest I never thought that rap was going to come out your mouth and I assumed I was going to be trolled with some Rick roll stuff lol.

The thing about rap is if you listening to it again if you brains not wired right you won’t hear the words what’s been said. Some people understand and some people don’t.

I should have done that... :p

I said:

I gotta be the one to bite the bullet, I'm a sinner but i bet i coulda been a better man.

I wanna be zen but i go sipping on some medicine instead of meditating, but i get it when i can.

I dont wanna wind up in the gutter with a bottle of malt liquor, bitter cos i never got a call telling me that its all figured out.

Im sick of doubt but im looking at the wall
 
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Ultimately learning something like that is like weight lifting, or similar. You just cannot ‘practice’ your muscles better than they can naturally develop and grow. Whenever I’ve tried to ‘shred’ I’ve always ended up given myself injuries by playing too much in a way that was placing great stress on my wrist... I have shonky wrists as it is.

This bit in Scarified is absolutely mental. Hurrghnnnn!

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I had a group lesson from Paul Gilbert once, which was super awesome.

Yeah uh, i cant read tabs. Thats one of the things got forgotten in the big 10 year hiatus. :p

But I did watch a youtube cover!
 
Last post on the subject so it doesn’t become just a guitar thread, but this for me is the ultimate ‘god mode’ video. It blows my mind that the ‘solo’ bit over the ‘Comfortably Numb’ chords is improvised. The YouTube comments are quite amusing too.


What really make it for me though is the fact that in a lot of his solo material, it’s really goofy, silly, feel good stuff... not pretentious at all.

There’s something deeply appealing about a master that isn’t arrogant. Like Yoda, or something :)

Ah yes, it seems that video was already in my liked videos list!

Completely ridiculous.

He literally has more talent in his little finger than I have in my whole body. :p

... Or does he..? As is the subject of the thread. :D


But then maybe it was a case of stepping over a critical mass in training and the natural skills would develop.

That is a good musing indeed. I like that sentence. :)

Maybe indeed.
 
Its not all about speed, i'd settle for being able to express emotion through my playing.

 
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