MW3 tips/tricks you probably aren't aware of

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On my specialist setup I run HL pro then first kill Assassin.
If I spawn and there is a UAV up then thats great because that's the first point I need to get Assassin. I run stinger on all of my Specialist setups for this sole reason.

From whats been said in this thread though I do understand the reasoning for not using HL, it finally made sense to me when Joe explained it.

And where the hell have you been the past week?

 

[sc(+)pe]

And where the hell have you been the past week?

Been finishing some things up m8 getting sorted for Christmas. Will be on tonight after dinner.

 

[SheepBeast]

Oh god no not again. Ok you prefer not to earn extra XP fair enough you only mentioned assists as your reason for not running it that is all.

I see what you're saying about XP now - that with my method you have to get 6 kills to get the equivalent earning count towards challenges as you get at 5 kills. My bad I didn't understand that before.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

With your system do you earn a perk and bonus at one? No the first one actually comes at 2 and by putting a non Hardline Perk in Tier 2 and calling it 0 you're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
With your system do you earn 3 perks and bonuses at 5? No you must get to 6
With your system can you earn assist counts as kill before 6? No because you don't earn Hardline Pro until 6.

If you don't understand that the numbers don't lie at best your system might not cost you XP at worst it throws it away. In fact the more you struggle in a game the better the Hardline Pro tier 2 system is.

You're right. You don't EARN a perk earlier with my system - you simply start with it, for free. This is what makes it "better" in my opinion. And I really don't think the assists make enough difference, considering you delay your first 2 specialist perks by one kill. Your system might be marginally better for earning XP (only very slightly), but if people are that bothered about XP they will be running support killstreaks, not specialist. Meh I imagine we are both of the opinion this debate has been done to death. Let's agree to disagree .

Sorry sheep, just thought I'd drop down to your level as you seem to have a very childish arrogance about this whole matter.

Lol. Apologies if I gave that impression. From my perspective though it's not arrogance if my system genuinely is better, which I believe it to be in most cases. Meh.

I've changed my specialist class now since I've seen the light I rarely get assists playing hctdm so not having hardline on at the start isn't an issue for me. So thanks to the OP for pointing out the blindingly obvious that I missed.

The only thing I dislike about running specialist is friggin stalker when you get all the perks. I can't use it anymore since I've stopped running about like a madman with a sub machine gun. It feels like it ups the sensitivity on me and makes ads aiming far too twitchy.

Thanks mate. I mainly use shotguns (so hardly ever aim down sight) so Stalker doesn't bother me most of the time. I use it as my starting perk when I use assault rifles though. It's great to be able to advance towards a corner while ADS if you have the feeling someones about to run round it.

On my specialist setup I run HL pro then first kill Assassin.
If I spawn and there is a UAV up then thats great because that's the first point I need to get Assassin. I run stinger on all of my Specialist setups for this sole reason.

That's a good point actually, I hadn't thought of that. For me personally, I prefer hardline last because with a shotgun as my primary I need an MP9 as my secondary. But for AR and SMG classes your setup is pretty cool. I'll update post #10 explaining it for thread newbies.

 

[SheepBeast]

<double post my bad>

 

[SheepBeast]

But at 4 kills ill have the perks I would usually have got at 5 since I can use assasin to replace hardline.

Instead of Assassin at 1 kill I can start with it, meaning I get slight of hand at 2 kills whereas it would have been 3 before, then at 4 I get Quickdraw whereas it would have been 5 with hardline. Yes the only reason I put hardline on at 6 so I only need one more kill to get all perks, I could replace it with something else but there's nothing that really screams out for me to use.

High five for pro-setup . You should try this with the striker with damage & extended mags. Once you get the bonus, you have range & speed too. It's insane the range you can kill people at. And you move sooo fast

Does anyone know what the equivelent sensitivity setting is when using stalker/stalker pro?

Equivalent to what?

 

[finite]

Hardline Pro Tier 2 it isn't marginally better for XP it's plain superior which is why commentators recommended it in the first place for ranking up fast.

You can take "earn" out of context if you like. I suspected you would which is why I especially italicised "earn" and "bonus" you are keen to focus on the weak sell of assists. This is just another potential bonus on top of the real guaranteed bonus you'd rather not mention too much.

I did find out something more about assists today though and this is just purely for information. The source of those respawn and immediately earn a perk as an assist comes in is due to being able carry over one assist to respawn.

Anyway I'm done. I've proved it is in no way better for me and the class I use which was what I said on the first page. In fact it would be deficient.

 

[SheepBeast]

The ONLY way in which it's "better" for XP is that it gets you the "earn x y times" challenges. These make up a TINY proportion of the challenges in the game. Over the course of an entire prestige, I'd guess much less than 5% (and that's if you run specialist killstreaks on all of your classes, which most people don't). This is pretty insignificant. Especially when most people (who aren't given a motivational boost by 'earning' a perk earlier) will do worse on average in terms of kills and deaths with your steup. This is due to having each perk delayed by 1. So you haven't proved anything. And the commentators I saw did not specify the purpose of ranking up fast.

You're right about the respawn instaperk. It's because the person you shot at last life who ended up killing you was killed by one of your allies shortly after. Obviously only happens if you already had an assist last life waiting to be "turned into" a kill by you getting another one.

I didn't take "earn" out of context. It's not a word whose meaning changes depending on context. With your system you EARN perks 1 kill earlier, but with my system you HAVE perks 1 kill earlier. If the perks are what you want, mine will generally be better. If it's the act of earning (even at the deteriment of actually having the perks) yours is better. What precisely is the "real guarannteed bonus" you speak of? Which you say is not related to assists? The reason I haven't mentioned it is because I don't believe it exists. If you can tell me, I'd be grateful. The only advantages I see to your system are 1) assits and 2) TINY amount of extra XP. Both of which are negligible when compared to the disadvantages.

I'm genuinely interested in what you have to say which is why I'm continuing this discussion. I don't want it to be an argument, I'd rather it was a debate. The purpose of this thread was to help everyone (including me and you) do better in the game and enjoy it more. I apologise if I've offended you or annoyed you by not understanding your posts. It'd be nice if you could post a summary of the reasons (with explanation) of why you think your setup is better for you. 1) so we can finally be done with this discussion and 2) because if your reasoning is valid, I and others may like to emulate your setup.

 

[finite]

For gods sake man your equestrian skills are legendary . You have a theory I would be disadvantaged, but look at #40. It failed the real world test.

I'm not going to go over the XP in detail as I said above I'm done for the reasons I said above too, but if someone would give me 5% interest today I'd snatch their hand off like anyone else .

 

[yoyo50]

Buying BF3 is the best trick

 

[finite]

Buying BF3 is the best trick

Surely it should be the treat though

 

[SheepBeast]

Buying BF3 is the best trick

Lol. Tried BF3 and wasn't impressed. That said, I'm getting a bit bored of CoD due to playing it way too much over the past couple of weeks. I'll probably come back to it one day but I need something else to move onto. Was thinking Reach but I don't have the disc here with me. Meh.

For gods sake man your equestrian skills are legendary . You have a theory I would be disadvantaged, but look at #40. It failed the real world test.

I'm not going to go over the XP in detail as I said above I'm done for the reasons I said above too, but if someone would give me 5% interest today I'd snatch their hand off like anyone else .

It failed (by your definition) your test, with a small sample size but fair enough. To each his own.