My 90c 9800X3D story

I mean, a 575W TDP GPU venting hot air out of its arse all over your RAM and CPU can cause problems, who would have thought? The fact a bunch of tech reviewers gushed over the HSF design still puzzles me given the blatant design flaw.
Sorry, I probably didn't word my last reply the way I intended :P

That is ridiculous, I thought I wasn't having a blonde moment when I first saw the design, in what world did they think this would be beneficial?
I know, I didn't understand why they were so excited by it either.

I also think the FE looks rather cheap compared to the 4090 FE, the FE packaging is awful too, just comes in dull shoe box, really what you want for the price isn't it, I don't care that they're saving the planet, oh think they are. For that money and the lesser amount made, give me a nice box - I'm all for making the box as small as possible, but this shoe box is laughable.
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What Gray2233 said.
Greatly improves GPU component cooling at the expense of other components in case built system.
In other words GPU industry is not trying to build best cooling for computer systems, but only best cooling when not in application most buyers use it in.​
Modern hi-performance GPUs (gaming / graphics) generate as much or more heat than CPUs.​
GPU industry needs to include liquid cooling for them.​
Waterblock designed for their GPU with pump and radiator similar to AIOs.​
With the huge profits they are making they could easily do this. Actual cost of production is less than 10% of retail price. Add another 10% for R&D, marketing, etc. even extremely inflated would still be less than 20% of current retail prices. But much of markup is wholesaler and retailer profits which are over 50% of retail price.​
The way it works is a £10 manufacturing cost +£10 R&D =£20 sold to wholesales for £50-100 who sells to retailer for £250-350 who sells to consumer for £500-700, but if it's in extreme demand sells for £800-1200+.​
Going kinda off topic, but this is reason Thermalriight retail pricing is so good. They manufacture their own products.

Parent company can control retail market from overcharging by only supplying wholesales / retailers who sell for more than their suggested prices (known as MSRP). Rarely done, but can be.
 
It's such a poor way of doing things tbh, you want to vent hot air externally as much as possible or at least redirect it from critical areas, but it does the polar opposite.

Throtting nearby components with internal heat makes less noise than a blower cooler at 6,000 rpm.

Looks bad on reviews. Leaf blower comparisons. Reviewers love easy things to complain about.
 
I have exactly the same setup. One of the 5090 fans exhausts into the path of the CPU intake. Not interested in water cooling again. CPU temps were a fraction higher with the 5090 at stock, but undervolting the 5090 has returned things to normal. 0.9V while boosting the clock to 2750 and reducing power draw a couple of hundred watts. Win win overall.

I have the 5090 and 9950x3d with 12 fans and the cpu ides around 35c and gaming about 45c odd.
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Needed reverse flow fans.

Very nice looking indeed but having all those fans not a tad noisy?

Not if you turn them all down. They are also very quiet fans.
 
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Throtting nearby components with internal heat makes less noise than a blower cooler at 6,000 rpm.

Looks bad on reviews. Leaf blower comparisons. Reviewers love easy things to complain about.
GPU coolers don't require 'blower cooler' or anything near that noise level.

Years ago we had big GPU air coolers like Raijintek Morpheus 8057, Alpenfohn Peter 2, Arctic Accelero Xtreme III, and Deepcool Dracula that used normal 120mm case fans. They cooler very well and very quietly.

Several companies sell GPU waterblocks for current GPUs. There are a few water cooling systems out there for them like Alphacool sell.

Another option is remove stock shroud and fans, then fit some normal 92mm or 120mm case fans. Google will give you examples.

Above won't solve all problems, like new GPU PCBs designed for thru PCB airflow.
 
GPU coolers don't require 'blower cooler' or anything near that noise level.

Years ago we had big GPU air coolers like Raijintek Morpheus 8057, Alpenfohn Peter 2, Arctic Accelero Xtreme III, and Deepcool Dracula that used normal 120mm case fans. They cooler very well and very quietly.

Several companies sell GPU waterblocks for current GPUs. There are a few water cooling systems out there for them like Alphacool sell.

Another option is remove stock shroud and fans, then fit some normal 92mm or 120mm case fans. Google will give you examples.

Above won't solve all problems, like new GPU PCBs designed for thru PCB airflow.

Years ago the best gpu was doing 200 watts. Those 3rd party coolers of that time were big not special.
 
Years ago the best gpu was doing 200 watts. Those 3rd party coolers of that time were big not special.
I agree, GPUs were lower wattage.
Did you use any of them? Because 'those 3rd party coolers' were/are quite good with 6x 6mm heatpipes in 100x250mm area of fins, very similar to what comes on modern GPUs but using 25mm thick fans instead of normal thin GPU fans.

End of the day I think best way to cool high TDP GPUs is water.
 
It's such a poor way of doing things tbh, you want to vent hot air externally as much as possible or at least redirect it from critical areas, but it does the polar opposite.

With the FE it's actually worse, they've a fan pushing that hot air at your VRM/RAM/CPU areas.
FE cards I agree they exhaust hot air all over the ram sticks had that issue with the 3090 managed to kill a couple of ram sticks the regular AIO cards though since they have their fans on the bottom and exhaust out the sides typically it isn't so bad
 
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