My apologies, I just need to get this out

I feel for you OP, bus driving is not an easy job. My dad used to be a bus driver for years in Glasgow, he was never the same after a junkie put a knife to his stomach and demanded he give him the money from the sealed "exact change only" machine that the driver doesn't have access to. Telling that to a desperate junkie would test anybody's negotiating skills.
 
Well I told my supervisor when I got back and was told "fine, if it comes in it'll get filed as B1N"

If no-one was getting off at that stop, and you could quite clearly see the woman had a pushchair but no room on board, what's the consequences of driving on and not stopping?

I haven't caught a bus in probably 10+ years, but I remember during uni days that certain bus routes were busy and if the bus didn't have space they didn't bother stopping for more pickups.
 
If no-one was getting off at that stop, and you could quite clearly see the woman had a pushchair but no room on board, what's the consequences of driving on and not stopping?

I haven't caught a bus in probably 10+ years, but I remember during uni days that certain bus routes were busy and if the bus didn't have space they didn't bother stopping for more pickups.
There were people getting off this time. For situations when the bus is full we have a code for the destination screens that displays "bus full" however mis-use is dealt with heavily. We have passenger number counters so management can check how full the bus was.
 
Funnily enough we arrived in Berlin on Tuesday and I still remarked to my wife that certain stickers on the trains would help so much in England, they make it very clear that wheelchairs > prams > bicycles.

sadly i think the problem is more than can be solved by mere stickers.

i recall waiting to catch a tram in Augsburg with a bike, a fella came up to me to let me know there's a particular part of the tram you're supposed to use if you have a bike and i was standing at the wrong part of the station to efficiently get on at the correct door.

point being, some random stranger felt that both me using the wrong door for a bike was egregious enough he should intervene, and confident enough that i wouldn't react negatively to being told to use the designated door.

i can easily imagine the equivalent interaction in the uk being met with a fierce "you can't tell me what to do" reaction, or that nobody would be brave enough to attempt it for fear of the same.
 
"It's only a small child in the wheelchair, you could lift them out and fold it so I could get on". My chin hit the cab floor but I had to quickly open my cab door to block the mother of the wheelchair child as she was about to throw some fists at her.
Why did you not reply, "it's only a small child in the pushchair, you could lift them and fold it so you can get on" ? Reverse Karen the Karen, it's the only way to defeat them
 
Sadly disability isn't taken seriously when it comes to the UK.

It relies on private companies running their own policy to comply with laws when the government itself should be a lot more active in writing disability transport and building access in to laws.

I know the US usually gets some flack on most issues but when it comes to disability their laws are a LOT stronger.

Good on op for doing the right thing. The guy in the sky news link has his own YouTube channel of his experiences on transport and disability accessibility. It's worth a watch to see the bad attitudes that still exist.
 
There are no greater entitled people on earth than parents of young children.

I have 2 (nearly 7 and 4)

I'm just sorry that you (and the mother of the WC bound child) actually have to put up with rubbish like this! I sometimes despair. Reading some of the comments on here gives me hope though!

Being a driver abuse is a daily occurrence however most of it comes from older generations who think age entitles them to unwavering and unconditional respect whilst showing none.

Why did you not reply, "it's only a small child in the pushchair, you could lift them and fold it so you can get on" ? Reverse Karen the Karen, it's the only way to defeat them

Unfortunately I have to remain professional.
 
I know what you mean OP. My old man was a bus driver on PMT for ~35 years, he also did coaches for National Express at times too, and some of the stories he had were mental. And bear in mind this was through the 70s to the 00s too, so no enclosed cabs, no cameras or mobiles for driver protection. It was full-on fisticuffs at times.
 
Last edited:
I can't see well enough to drive, so I'm a regular bus user. Even in my lovely town of Stafford (feel free to interpret however you like!), I've seen many arguments on my local bus and 2 fights. They weren't your standard fist fights either. The 1st fight was just a lot of pushing and shoving until someone fell over. They got back up and it repeated. The 2nd fight involved 5 or 6 people and was a full on punch-up and the climax was when a girl got picked up by a larger guy, clean off the floor, and actually threw her several feet down the aisle. The driver locked the bus so no one could get off and police was waiting at the next stop so that they could make arrests. People are scum.

She was told by myself that she would need to use another operators service (Both Stagecoach and First operate that stop) as she was no longer welcome on ours.

I know it's easier said and done and it depends on what sort of character you are, how assertive etc, but well played for standing your ground.

Sadly disability isn't taken seriously when it comes to the UK.

Tell me about it. I had attendance allowance and DLA for all of my life due to a genetic condition that I can't get rid of and it's degenerative. Despite that, the changeover to PIP was a reduced award due to my assessor falsifying some of my report. The DWP pays commission every time the assessor lowers or zeros a PIP award, so they're encouraged to do it. 3.5 years later, it went to tribunal and I won. All very much a waste as DLA to PIP was meant to be a cost cutting exercise, but 70% of PIP tribunals are won and thus a lot of court costs to the taxpayer.
 
Back
Top Bottom