My Golf - Update thread

Concrete said:
Mega (surface) rust! Quite scary looking at some of those photos, suppose its a bit too late to under seal?
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As Lopez said, it's just surface corrosion, it's all very solid under that. Christ, it's nearly 25-years-old, you'd expect a bit of surface grot ;)
 
Seen some moderns that look like that underneath too - just the effects of the super-nasty winter salt brine mix they put down nowadays :(

Great fun though, this 80s/90s motoring lark though, isn't it :D Cheap thrills!
 
Looking good Ben, thinking about getting a rear Neuspeed arb for mine to kill off some more understeer sounds like it gives promising results.
 
InvaderGIR said:
Mine may be mid 90's production and not all that cheap depending on your views, but it's an early 90's design, and it's sooooo much fun. :D
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I certainly reckon it's cheap for what you get - great machines! I did almost go for the Coupe but (a personal thing) I prefer the E30 looks to the E36 :)

I'd like 2.8 in the E30 though....hur hur hur :D
 
Could you do me a favor Wayne, could you ask them if they make custom brake lines / have any in for a standard VW hardline to brembo 4pot calipers, i need to change mine but i'm finding it hard to find someone who's willing to sell the lines without the caliper package.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Could you do me a favor Wayne, could you ask them if they make custom brake lines / have any in for a standard VW hardline to brembo 4pot calipers, i need to change mine but i'm finding it hard to find someone who's willing to sell the lines without the caliper package.
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They dont and cant get any :( They said your best bet would be to find a local company that would make you some up to fit specifically.

Do none of the upgrade kits (ECS, Tarox) lines not fit?
 
Firestar_3x and Wayn0r there is a chap on the GTi-6 forum who sells custom brake lines, He might be able to make up what you require!

I'll post his profile up here once I've found it :)

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I hope he can meet your requirements!
 
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Nice work, someone I know has a Mk2 Golf driver (1.6), and it almost scrapes it's wingmirrors when going round roundabouts! Amusing to watch but I guess an ARB would sort this?
 
Wayn0r said:
They dont and cant get any :( They said your best bet would be to find a local company that would make you some up to fit specifically.

Do none of the upgrade kits (ECS, Tarox) lines not fit?
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Bummer, cheers for asking however, last time i checked ecs tuning lines won't fit, but they might have some new kits out so will have a poke around the site.

Basically i'm running a custom hardline from the back of the caliper to some braided Boxster S lines which connect to the hardline on the car.

The boxster lines i've found don't run from the back of the caliper, i really need a Banjo fitting from the back of the caliper to cars hardline.


Sounds like finding a local guy or company is going to be best.

TaKeN said:
Firestar_3x and Wayn0r there is a chap on the GTi-6 forum who sells custom brake lines, He might be able to make up what you require!

I'll post his profile up here once I've found it :)

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I hope he can meet your requirements!
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Cheers for that fella :)

Edit: http://www.earls.co.uk/earls/aboutus.html could be a good bet.
 
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MikeHunt79 said:
Nice work, someone I know has a Mk2 Golf driver (1.6), and it almost scrapes it's wingmirrors when going round roundabouts! Amusing to watch but I guess an ARB would sort this?
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arb isnt really about limiting roll in corners. it is to shift around the weight balance of the car when its in a corner, hence the alteration to the under/oversteer balance.

to limit roll, you want to be changing springs
 
Matt82 said:
arb isnt really about limiting roll in corners. it is to shift around the weight balance of the car when its in a corner, hence the alteration to the under/oversteer balance.

to limit roll, you want to be changing springs
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Now I'm no expert, but this seems wrong to me.

Firstly: It's call an anti roll bar
Secondly: As I understand things, they link both the rear springs together, so the stiffer the bar, the more force is shared to the other spring thus reducing roll.

So stiffer springs will certainly reduce roll, but so will stiffer ARBs
 
Matt82 said:
arb isnt really about limiting roll in corners. it is to shift around the weight balance of the car when its in a corner, hence the alteration to the under/oversteer balance.

to limit roll, you want to be changing springs
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Its does shift weight balance though. Its increased the outside spring rate with the ARB acting as a coupling to the other side of the car and using that spring for the bump condition.

Of course in stright line bumps it add no spring rate as both springs see the same load. Unlike a harder spring. Thats why ARB's are so popular, they dont compromise comfort as much as hard springs would.
 
Badgerpoo said:
Now I'm no expert, but this seems wrong to me.

Firstly: It's call an anti roll bar
Secondly: As I understand things, they link both the rear springs together, so the stiffer the bar, the more force is shared to the other spring thus reducing roll.

So stiffer springs will certainly reduce roll, but so will stiffer ARBs
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Yep, You are effectively increasing the spring rate.
 
wrong. what about nose dive on braking? what about cresting the top of a hill fast etc?

another down side of uprated arbs is that they limit independant wheel movement which isnt the best for handling

arbs are not about limiting roll, they are to alter the handling/weight balance of a car
 
Matt82 said:
wrong. what about nose dive on braking? what about cresting the top of a hill fast etc?

another down side of uprated arbs is that they limit independant wheel movement which isnt the best for handling

arbs are not about limiting roll, they are to alter the handling/weight balance of a car
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Limiting wheel movement is a valid arguement, however this was picked up in a previous post. The design of damper unit can also cause limited wheel droop, another cause of wheel lift.

However telling me I am wrong is completely retarded.

Under braking the anti-roll bar as no effect. This is why it is not called an anti-dive bar, no one is even claiming they help in this regard, as mentioned an ARB increase rather than spring stiffness helps with ride quality. Things like speedhumps mean that ARB does nothing, however under corning the ARB ties the two springs together. If the ARB was infinitely stiff you would be effectively doubling the spring rate of the outside spring - this will reduce suspension travel and therefor limit roll.

The only reason anti-roll bars change handling as you describe is due to the movement of the neutral point - but this is determined by front and rear spring stiffness, something that anti-roll bars contribute too.

By fitting an thicker anti-roll bar to the rear you are typically removing grip and therefore decreasing understeer by the fact you are increasing oversteer. This is due to the change in the neutral point.
 
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Matt82 said:
wrong. what about nose dive on braking? what about cresting the top of a hill fast etc?
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They are functions of understeer and oversteer? You alluded to this below and none are conditions to consider 'in a corner'

arb isnt really about limiting roll in corners. it is to shift around the weight balance of the car when its in a corner, hence the alteration to the under/oversteer balance.
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Depends on your roll centres with nose diving so if you fit stiffer LOWER springs you may actually make dive worse anyway. Dont see your point.
 
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