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My new build - AMD or Intel

redrabbit29

redrabbit29

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I'm building my first computer after my last one from 9 years ago finally died. I thought I had it clear in my head I will get an Intel i7-7700k 4.2ghz.

I discussed it with my friend who knows a bit more about recent hardware updates and said the new AMDs are better speeds and cheaper.

I know that's generally always been their selling point, but is this worth considering?

Sorry for the general post, I am researching but just didn't know where to start
 
Depends what you want to do and how much you can wait and what's your budget.

Imho if you find a bundle with the R7 1700 @ 3.9+ overclock with all the rest of the parts included, get it. It will serve you much better than the 7700K, while the price is the same.
8Pack has said is going to create some pre-overclocked ones in full bundle kit. Just wait a week or so :)
 
If you don't buy often and don't spend on regular upgrades, I'd suggest waiting a month to see how AMD Ryzen develops from software updates and bios updates. If it doesn't improve, I'd probably try and pickup an i7 bundle cheap making sure to buy a decent psu, case, cooler and ssd. Sell up bar those 4 items when x299 launches later this year, or just wait to go full build. X299 6 cores should last gamers years.
 
I'm willing to wait around 10 days. I have a credit card coming which I will use to purchase the computer for around £1500-2000. Some items I will choose to upgrade later, such as the GFX card.

The computer is for programming, VMs, pen testing, some image editing.

I don't play games but want the option at least to try.

My old computer I will turn into a "target machine" or server, so I will run that seperately but on a network.

My hunch is to just go for the i7 which has been my plan for about 6 months
 
Those tasks actually seem to be what the Ryzen chips excel in. The 8 cores will outperform the i7 in multithreaded applications.

You could build a system with an 1800X, 32GB RAM, an RX480 which will be great for casual gaming at standard resolutions and 1TB of M.2 storage plus extra HDDs, including OS, for £2000. And that's including an AIO CPU cooler and a fancy case. For what you want to do I would say Ryzen is looking like a much better option so far.
 
TheDesX77 said:
Those tasks actually seem to be what the Ryzen chips excel in. The 8 cores will outperform the i7 in multithreaded applications.

You could build a system with an 1800X, 32GB RAM, an RX480 which will be great for casual gaming at standard resolutions and 1TB of M.2 storage plus extra HDDs, including OS, for £2000. And that's including an AIO CPU cooler and a fancy case. For what you want to do I would say Ryzen is looking like a much better option so far.
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Or save £180 and get a 1700 and overclock to the same as a 1800X overclocks to. No brainer.

But yes, your usage profile seems to be exactly what the new Ryzen line up was made for. It's competing with intels £1000 offerings at the exact tasks you are planning on doing with it. But for £320. If by i7 you were thinking of the 7700k, then the Ryzen will beast it in everything but the gaming side, which you don't appear to be particularly interested in. And even there, once the BIOS and memory kinks are sorted out, I doubt there will be much more than about 10% FPS between them. In the meantime (before these bugs are sorted out), it'll still beast the 7700k for the stuff you want to do with it, it'll just be a "little" worse in gaming.
 
Will you keep this system for 9 years again?

AM4 for upgradeability imo and in theory Ryzen should be better for the future than KabyLake.
 
redrabbit29 said:
I'm willing to wait around 10 days. I have a credit card coming which I will use to purchase the computer for around £1500-2000. Some items I will choose to upgrade later, such as the GFX card.

The computer is for programming, VMs, pen testing, some image editing.

I don't play games but want the option at least to try.

My old computer I will turn into a "target machine" or server, so I will run that seperately but on a network.

My hunch is to just go for the i7 which has been my plan for about 6 months
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For that type of usage get a Ryzen or X99. I use Visual Studio and run VM's for testing and I would not recommend a quad core CPU.
 
Depends how many VM's you run at the same time. I run mostly one and still do fine (no performance issues) with a quad core i7 for now but won't deny an 8 core would be better.
Sounds like OP should go for an 8 either way which should last a while
 
I'd go for Ryzen. Longer lasting socket (AM4), 8cores 16 thread much more likely to last you into the future and well suited to your workload. The Ryzen 1700 is around £300 the Intel equivalent b the 6900K is £1000 and performance is very similar. Ryzen is only going to get better as it matures.

Save some money and get a better PC for the future is my advice.
 
Troezar said:
I'd go for Ryzen. Longer lasting socket (AM4), 8cores 16 thread much more likely to last you into the future and well suited to your workload. The Ryzen 1700 is around £300 the Intel equivalent b the 6900K is £1000 and performance is very similar. Ryzen is only going to get better as it matures.

Save some money and get a better PC for the future is my advice.
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Sound advice, cant argue with ryzen at the moment. It will mature and be a real power house.
 
Troezar said:
I'd go for Ryzen. Longer lasting socket (AM4), 8cores 16 thread much more likely to last you into the future and well suited to your workload. The Ryzen 1700 is around £300 the Intel equivalent b the 6900K is £1000 and performance is very similar. Ryzen is only going to get better as it matures.

Save some money and get a better PC for the future is my advice.
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Actually indeed I agree with you. This is the first time we could buy core PC system, at a very reasonable price and been future proof with horizon the next 4 years!
 
I agree with most of the posts above. Ryzen 1700 or 1700X will be a much better buy for what the OP wants to do. What I cannot agree with at the moment are people who are trying to compare the Ryzen 7 processors with the i7 7700K just for gaming...when those processors are aimed at workstations for multitasking and rendering etc..etc.. It will also still be a very good gaming processor...but not be the best in that area, just like the 6800/6900 processors that it is aiming for (10% or 10 - 15fps at 1080P from what i can gather (Who the **** is running @ 1080P buying chips like this anyway LOL :p), however Ryzen 7 is still clocking up good frame rates in most games). Also for the price it is an amazing processor. AMD always play the longer game and any deficiencies in Ryzen will be sorted. As for the i7 7700k's real competition the R3/R5's they too may not beat the i5/i7 on the overclocking or games front....But they will be close and they will be a lot cheaper than Intels chips (Que an Intel price drop on R3/R5 release).
 
redrabbit29 said:
I'm willing to wait around 10 days. I have a credit card coming which I will use to purchase the computer for around £1500-2000. Some items I will choose to upgrade later, such as the GFX card.

The computer is for programming, VMs, pen testing, some image editing.

I don't play games but want the option at least to try.

My old computer I will turn into a "target machine" or server, so I will run that seperately but on a network.

My hunch is to just go for the i7 which has been my plan for about 6 months
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Ryzen

It's a no brainer...
 
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