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GFX707 said:
So we're still without a proper answer on how the yanks can get so little BHP out of such large engines....
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OK, I'll try to be a little more specific. They don't tune them so as to try and make the engine's more reliable.

A 5.0l V8 pushing 200bhp will last a long time. A 200bhp 1.6l will need a rebuild a lot, lot sooner..
 
GFX707 said:
So we're still without a proper answer on how the yanks can get so little BHP out of such large engines....
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Cause they don't want anymore from it.

Its not all about making the most power from an engine. I bet the torque output is much higher than equivalent bhp engines
 
Who cares about the engine, it's only a hire car. More to the point, looks cool.

Which group was it hired from and what's the cost? I'm in DC during May and fancy taking a Stang out for a week. Were the v8 GTs an option for hire?
 
[TW]Fox said:
530bhp, isnt that what BMW gets from a normally aspirated 5 litre engine? I believe you know someone who has such an engine ;)
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True but it has a rather low pathetic 380Lb-Ft in comparison to my 510Lb-Ft which does make a drastic difference in performance to in-gear acceleration. ;)

Also I am sure the engine in the BMW cost more than £5000 too. ;)

We could turn this around and ask how come most Jap/Euro cars have low amounts of torque. :p
 
It's from Hertz, costing about £130 for a week, normal cost is about 190 but you'd have to add on insurance. I didn't actually request it, the girl behind the counter offered it to me. Makes a nice change from the usual midsize V6's I get every week, I might try to get one again while I'm in Florida next week :)
 
Hate said:
your car has forced indiction, therefore you cannot compare the two engines :p
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Damn some one caught me out,:D but you can get Mustangs now from Saleen with 400BHP from the 4.6l N/A. :)
 
Lowe said:
OK, I'll try to be a little more specific. They don't tune them so as to try and make the engine's more reliable.

A 5.0l V8 pushing 200bhp will last a long time. A 200bhp 1.6l will need a rebuild a lot, lot sooner..
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VW in the US offer a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty on their cars too.
 
Lowe said:
To make them last 100,000 miles and 10 years under warrantee... American cars have to deal with far greater distances than a typical european car, and have longer warrantees. So, they put huge lazy engines in to make them last.
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Its not unusual to see yank motors with 300k on the clock.
 
Hate said:
your car has forced indiction, therefore you cannot compare the two engines :p
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I've always wondered about that.
Why shouldn't the two be compared? Both are clearly options for an engine manufacturer. Surely it IS a reasonable option assuming that the two are fully compared on cost, performance, reliability etc. I'd agree that it's unfair to compare say the Mustang supercharged engine on purely torque, if the probable decrease in reliability, fuel economy and longevity are not taken into account.

After all, we consider it reasonable to compare the engines of say a TT225, BMW Z4 3ltr and Honda S2000. All are in similarly priced cars aimed at a similar market.

Strikes me that the M5 engine is pretty much a big VTEC engine. There have certainly been some unpleasant comments made about the smaller Honda VTECs, so why not the bigger M5?
 
Take it back Ted. Clearly because it isn't cracking at the seams due to every ounce of possible power being produced, it just isn't good enough for a daily driver.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
Take it back Ted. Clearly because it isn't cracking at the seams due to every ounce of possible power being produced, it just isn't good enough for a daily driver.
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If he was only up for the daily driving he wouldn't be going on about the "massive" 210 ponies under the bonnet etc.

He brought it on himself if anything :p
 
GFX707 said:
If he was only up for the daily driving he wouldn't be going on about the "massive" 210 ponies under the bonnet etc.

He brought it on himself if anything :p
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Why not? I'm sure 210 ponies could come as a shock to some. It would for me given I've been driving a sub 100bhp clio for the last 4 years. The accelerator on the clio has just two settings - "Power on" and "Power off" because it's just so feable. I'd imagine more than double would have at the very least a gradient of power to it.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Try Kia, 7 years 100,000 miles iirc ;)
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That aint a proper car ;)

[TW]Fox said:
Audi: Unlimited Mileage for first two years
BMW: Unlimited Mileage over 3 years
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Strange then that I was specifically asked whether my BM had done more than 60k when it went in for some warranty work at my local dealer.

The warranty on my Golf was 3 years or 60k.

Things may have changed recently but 60k or 3 years was the general rule of thumb.
 
Giddy said:
Strange then that I was specifically asked whether my BM had done more than 60k when it went in for some warranty work at my local dealer.
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How old is it? Until recently, there was a 60k limit on warranty work in the third year. First two years were unlimited, though.
 
At the time the work was done it was around the 2 year mark maybe just after, thats bit of a cop out on BMWs part if its only unlimited in the first 2 years.

Have they now changed their policy to unlimited mileage in the first 3 years?
 
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