Generally glamorised. Usually reserved for people welching on debts or past grudges.
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My prison experience
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Generally glamorised. Usually reserved for people welching on debts or past grudges.
Yet they confiscated henry nowak and his father's phones?
LOL
But yeah on a serious point I can see why calling the police was appropriate there.
What is confusing is the images thing - cache from 4 years ago after accidentally stumbling across them. It does seem off that OP couldn't enter a guilty plea for the indecent exposure (after all he did do that) but also not guilty for the images and fight that one in court - surely the reason for being on remand gets negated if the false imprisonment charge has been dropped and the indecent exposure plea has been entered.
Seems like a failure on the part of the system if that can’t be taken into account - like OP would’ve already served his time (perhaps more than he’d have needed to) by then so ought to be released and bailed on that outstanding charge if it’s to go to trail.
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I'm going to assume that GMC investigation was a referral from an IOPC complaint against the custody suite/force?
I ask, as if not, there should be a complaint in about the police force you were detained in as well. Whole thing seems terrifying though thanks for sharing.
I ask, as if not, there should be a complaint in about the police force you were detained in as well. Whole thing seems terrifying though thanks for sharing.
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Hey mate I think someone might have nicked your pc did you leave it near a bin?
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Did it grow in the dark?
At the hospital I work at we have a dedicated MHLT that would've been the first call rather than the police.
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One of my cases at the hospital about 10 years ago was known as (name change) Plastic Pauline.
She refused to have any treatment because she said she was made of plastic and radioactive.
Because she hadn't got capacity we had to force her to take her treatment or else she would die.
Here's the best one, her husband put a claim in because he believed her.
Some aspects of the criminal justice system are just bizarre.
Can be kept on remand following an allegation of a crime the person hasn't committed. 6-12 months inside and found not guilty at court or it just gets dropped and off you go, back to get on with your life, what ever it is.
I get it's all about managing risk etc but decisions do appear to be a bit blasé at times when putting someone on remand.
Ultimately damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
Can be kept on remand following an allegation of a crime the person hasn't committed. 6-12 months inside and found not guilty at court or it just gets dropped and off you go, back to get on with your life, what ever it is.
I get it's all about managing risk etc but decisions do appear to be a bit blasé at times when putting someone on remand.
Ultimately damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
The legal system is a failure in the UK, it needs a complete shakeup to actually get criminals convicted. There was someone recently in the local area who was attacked on their way back from the pub suffering a broken ankle, broken tooth and lots of cuts and bruises. The 4 people committing the assault were released without charge because the victim had injured one of the attackers fighting back. Do they seriously expect people to just stand there and not fight back when 4 people have set about them, I did think that the legal system allowed for reasonable force?
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I watch a very large amount of Crime documentaries and especially when you watch stuff like Traffic Cops and Police Interceptors and they go over the sentences of the people caught and it's just a joke.
I’d be going after the old bill for abuse of process. Sounds like you were interviewed when not fit to do so, that is a big no no.
Duty Doctor should have been called and you should have been assessed before the interview. What’s interesting is they didn’t section you once outside in the open. Most would have done that for a few reasons, to get you in a place of help and also a lot less paper work. Sounds like the old bill were just chasing arrest figures and or being vindictive
Duty Doctor should have been called and you should have been assessed before the interview. What’s interesting is they didn’t section you once outside in the open. Most would have done that for a few reasons, to get you in a place of help and also a lot less paper work. Sounds like the old bill were just chasing arrest figures and or being vindictive
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Don’t wave your tackle about in a public place.
It was fairly rare on the VP wing for someone to be hit unprovoked, only happened a couple of times I was there, and was usually down to debt, it happened much more frequently on the mains, there was one big brawl which required the officers to all go over to one of the other wings, once but that was about it.
Not my colleagues, I was a patient!
I mentioned something to the hospital staff saying something about seeing/looking at some images, and they reported it to the police. It is a actually a very low bar for them searching your house and confiscating your devices, hearsay is all they need, anyone who has been arrested can have their house searched without a warrant.
That hanging over me has been a significant contributing factor to this incident, which has made me ask myself, if the police investigations have the end result of things like this happening it seems that they can cause more harm then good. People talk about being framed for a crime due to psychotic statements they come out with, but in my case a crime was in effect invented by the police where none actually existed.
If I hadn't said anything, I wouldnt have been blamed, so I suppose the moral of that story is see no evil.
There was a recent incident reported in the Guardian where hospital staff reported someone to the police because they had drugs concealed in their vagina, and they ended up being shocked by the treatment of her, when she was clearly being exploited. All this serves to undermine the public trust in healthcare professionals in my judgement.
As Orwell put it, so effective is the government's propaganda that otherwise well educated persons can be convinced to serve the states interest in the belief they are serving a duty to society, you have to admire the genius of that.
My counsel said that, they would not sentence me for the exposure incident, until the images case was dealt with, even though they were two unrelated cases. So I would have had to wait in prison another 6 months+ for an expert to show that these images were unsolicited, despite the fact that there was no actual evidence to suggest they were, the prosecution doesn't need to show that to get a conviction.
The standard of evidence that someone can be convicted on, and sent to prison, would not pass peer review in a second rate science journal. The only reason I know it's cache is because the directory listed in the court bundle is one of the windows temporary file folders, it wasn't picked up on by my legal team, which begs the question; how many other people are being wrongly prosecuted for indecent images in similar circumstances?
The prosecution will of course know it's cache, because their computer "expert" will have told them, but they don't care whether you are innocent or not, same as the police. So much for legal discovery.
No, I raised a concern with the GMC regarding the prison healthcare staff taking people off controlled psychiatric and anticonvulsant drugs like benzodiazepines and pregabalin cold turkey without medical supervision as I consider that to be reckless beyond belief and shows a callous disregard for vulnerable patients, that sort of practice would never be tolerated in the community, they are only getting away with that malpractice, because the patients don't have access to normal recourse.
Get this, once I was arrested, interviewed after being declared fit, then after the interview they detained me under the mental health act saying I was unfit.
There are just not enough safeguards in place. When I called the police officer and said I had been unfit, he just said "well you answered no comment didn't you?", as if not recognising how serious that misconduct was.
Another thing I've noticed, is how much of the justice system is just theatre.
I now have to be on the register for the next 5 years due to the images, not the exposure because it's not that type of exposure.
But because I've made been made homeless I'm on it as no fixed address, thus defeating the entire point of the register in the first place.
I ask myself, how many of these measures put in place to protect the public, serve any useful practical effect as opposed to just giving the appearance of doing something?
The only silver lining in all this is that because I was in effect wrongly imprisoned, I get £5.2k Esa back pay, compensation of a sort. Will help me make a fresh start and start on with my pharmacology degrees, so I can go back into being a useful member of society again. My convictions will become spent next year so they won't show up on a basic db's check.
If people had to be compensated for time spent wrongly on remand, I imagine the abuse of remand would cease in short order.
Another aspect worth commenting on, is the two tier justice that remand creates, if you are well off, i.e have a secure place to stay your are generally going to get bail, so the net effect of this is that poorer people get treated worse by the justice system and spend longer in prison. Similar to the USA with its cash bail system. Many on the wing were there solely because they had no fixed address to go to.
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That is absolutely ******* shocking, I'm embarrassed for my NHS colleagues (well ex).
Anything like that happens at our hospital my department (ex dept now) gets called to see if they can section.
