My R32.

the huge excess of grip over grunt? the weight? how it is fwd? servicing costs for the haldex thing? internal G and steering sensors failing?

you do gain independant rear suspension though
 
I thought the 4wd in these was front wheel drive 'till it needed to send power to the rear? - I may be wrong

The engine can sound awesome however - unless like several of ones around here which sound really raspy and broken!

Correct

Its a haldex setup which is Front wheel drive but can send power to the rear if needed.
 
I thought the 4wd in these was front wheel drive 'till it needed to send power to the rear? - I may be wrong

The engine can sound awesome however - unless like several of ones around here which sound really raspy and broken!

I don't know what's changed in the Mk5 Golf, but the older Haldex version they used in the Mk4 was always running in AWD (not waiting to detect slip), but was heavily biased towards the front. You could replace the controller to one that had different modes and could get the bias nearer to 50/50.

Graph from this thread.
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the huge excess of grip over grunt? the weight? how it is fwd? servicing costs for the haldex thing? internal G and steering sensors failing?

you do gain independent rear suspension though

The mk5 haldex is different than the mk4. As someone has already posted, it is predominantly fwd but I believe the mk5 version of hladex can put upto 70/75% power to the rear. I have a sport haldex controller on the way already.

I don't judge how much I like a car by how much it costs to run/service etc. but I am in a position whereby the general maintenance isn't the same cost that most would pay (benefits of owning the r32oc).

Im not sure what you mean on the whole excessive grip argument - it has almost the same torque as it does power, and for the average person that is more than enough. Coupled with the DSG gearbox and a simple remap the 0-60 is around the 5 second mark. Not bad for a stock, lardy golf eh?

The weight is excessive, but how many 3 door hatchbacks with a v6 and 4wd can you name ?

Ive never heard anyone post up or complain about things failing. The biggest issue I have heard about with these cars is the mechantronic system going faulty, but that is now well in order and can be fixed relatively cheaply if you ever come across that issue.

Each to there own as usual, you are entitled to your opinion - but ive now owned both the mk4 and the mk5, and some nice cars inbetween and as a package I really cant fault it.
 
The non-believers really need to try an R32. I always owned Jap and never thought Id own a Golf in a million years.

The sound alone makes this car. I can't wait to get my second now my Scoob has gone :)
 
The haldex service is nothing out of the ordinary, its quite a simple job and thus cost's a lot less with a reputable independent, its the dsg oil change thats a bit of a pain!

I'd have chosen the R32 (A3 v6 instead) but there weren't any I liked at the time, I love the recaro seats they fit so snug!

There is a nice VVT attack + remap to get decent gains for these engines, but coming in at just under 1k doesn't seem all that its worth.
 
The haldex service is nothing out of the ordinary, its quite a simple job and thus cost's a lot less with a reputable independent, its the dsg oil change thats a bit of a pain!

I'd have chosen the R32 (A3 v6 instead) but there weren't any I liked at the time, I love the recaro seats they fit so snug!

There is a nice VVT attack + remap to get decent gains for these engines, but coming in at just under 1k doesn't seem all that its worth.

Getting power out of the engine N/A is expensive for not much.

a lot of people are of the opinion the engines were built originally for a form of forced induction but stopped just short of it due to how well they response to a turbo/supercharger.

This is the kit I am in discussions on getting:

 
Getting power out of the engine N/A is expensive for not much.

a lot of people are of the opinion the engines were built originally for a form of forced induction but stopped just short of it due to how well they response to a turbo/supercharger.

This is the kit I am in discussions on getting:


Looks good - how much? I'm more a fan of a supercharger for these cars, but you're looking at around £4k to do it properly :(
 
a lot of people are of the opinion the engines were built originally for a form of forced induction but stopped just short of it due to how well they response to a turbo/supercharger.

Why would that stop manufacturers going down that route?

And what were your thoughts on the S2000?
 
Why would that stop manufacturers going down that route?

And what were your thoughts on the S2000?

Audi basically saying "you cant have a vw faster than the equivalent audi" :p

I LOVED my S2000, admittedly it was far from standard. In the state it was just before I sold it, It handled superbly - I did my ARDS test in it at Oulton park, in the wet and despite really pushing it only had a slight power-slide coming out of druids once.
 
I'm totally for this turbo kit, jbs seems to be the most capable place, however the strain on a DSG box + any problems puts me off, I just don't have the courage...yet! There's one operating at almost 500bhp (manual) - insane!

I find the current power acceptable, the audi feels much less 'racey' than the R32.

On a side note I saw a couple of guys in an R20 and R32, have to say the R32 was so much nicer in sound, but slower in performance.
 
Audi basically saying "you cant have a vw faster than the equivalent audi" :p

I LOVED my S2000, admittedly it was far from standard. In the state it was just before I sold it, It handled superbly - I did my ARDS test in it at Oulton park, in the wet and despite really pushing it only had a slight power-slide coming out of druids once.

What had you done to it and why did you get rid?
 
I'm totally for this turbo kit, jbs seems to be the most capable place, however the strain on a DSG box + any problems puts me off, I just don't have the courage...yet! There's one operating at almost 500bhp (manual) - insane!

I find the current power acceptable, the audi feels much less 'racey' than the R32.

On a side note I saw a couple of guys in an R20 and R32, have to say the R32 was so much nicer in sound, but slower in performance.

United Motorsport in the US and UK have a DSG remap and have a car running over 650bhp and 600ft/lbs of torque for over 12 months now on stock DSG internals and clutchpacks. I think its safe to say the DSG is more than capable of big power with the right mapping on it ;)

Also, If you go JBS id reccomend you get UM to map it - JBS turbo systems have a bad reputation for poor mapping.

What had you done to it and why did you get rid?

-Berk De-Cat Pipe with bung for AEM UEGO Wideband.
-Buddy Club Dual Prospec 3 Cat Back Exhaust.
-Buddy Club Racing Spec Coilovers / Dampers
-Custom GW catch can system, with welded connections to the valve cover.
-Oil filter relocation kit with Greddy Oil Cooler and MOCAL thermostat system.
-JapShop engine damper.
-AEM UEGO Wideband Guage fitted to where the original Radio controls were.
-Sparco 330mm Suede wheel.
-D2 racing quick release system.
-Buddy Club Dry Cell Racing Battery.
-Front bushes replaced with Polybush items.
-DS2500 Ferodo pads all round.
-Braided brake lines all round.
-Racing Brake high temp fluid

Pic here without spoiler.

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Had the car overhauled by Awesome GTI monday.

Full engine service with flush,
Full gearbox service
Full Haldex service
DSG recalibration

Fitted my Haldex controller with switch and wired it up.

The difference is night and day, the car had been running on VW long life servicing since birth and the DSG recal. has made a world of difference to the shifts.

Stage 1 turbo kit is on its way, should be here in a few weeks, they are just getting the turbo into stock first with a few tweaks.

Ill be fitting it along with the KW V3's and new brakes all at the same time, along with Stage 3 DSG map ;)

Cant wait!
 
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