My Super Machine. Few Questions.

cmndr_andi said:
With a £5000 budget this might be up your street:

Unfortunately that workstation bundle only comes with the standard Asus P8P67 board - so I would ask them if they could use the Asus P8P67 PRO board instead for better SLI performance due to the x8/x8 PCI-E lanes on the PRO.
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That looks nice. Is the GTX 580 better than the HD6990? Those monitors allow 3D?
 
ok, i cant see any sensible way of improving this without making a watercooling setup. (i believe the HAF X is good for accommodating water cooled setups)

ive no idea how good triple SLI is, so you may want to cut back to two cards depending on what others say about it. i just figured 1 card for each screen, lol
if you do go for two cards, the MSI GD65 motherboard would be a lot better, as you will get the same performance, but have useful slots available to you

once again, the titan krypt is in place of them monitors


[YOUR BASKET
3 x OcUK GeForce GTX 580 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.98
1 x "Titan Krypt" AMD Phenom II X4 840 "95W Edition" 3.20GHz Quad Core DDR3 System £389.98
1 x No Hard Drive Upgrade £0.00
1 x OcUK GeForce GT 430 1024MB GDDR3 Low Profile PCI-Express Graphics Card £52.79
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-00599) £79.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £349.99
1 x Asus Maximus IV Extreme Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £286.36
1 x Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor with FREE Operation Flashpoint Red River Game £249.98
1 x OCZ ZX Series 1250W '80 Plus Gold Certified' Modular Power Supply £169.99
1 x Coolermaster HAF X Gaming Tower Case - Black (RC-942) £129.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit - OEM (FQC-00765) £114.98
1 x Nvidia GeForce 3D Vision Kit £114.98
1 x Pioneer BDR-206DBK 12x BluRay RW / 16x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) £107.99
1 x Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £83.99
2 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £71.99
1 x Logitech G110 Illuminated Gaming Keyboard (920-002241) £69.98
1 x Corsair Hydro H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1155/1156/775/AM2/AM3) £59.99
1 x Razer DeathAdder Respawn 3500dpi Xtreme Precision Gaming Mouse and FREE Boogie Bug AimB.Pad XL Gaming Mouse Surface £44.99
2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000528AS) £42.98
1 x Lian Li PT-FN04 5.25" Bay Fan Controller - Black £42.89
2 x Akasa AK-FN059 120mm Ultra Quiet Viper Cool Fan - 3/4 Pin £13.99
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g) £7.14
Total : £3,942.94 (includes shipping : £32.55).
 
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JooJar said:
That looks nice. Is the GTX 580 better than the HD6990? Those monitors allow 3D?
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For such a high resolution they would be a better choice and GTX 580 SLI is a fair bit faster than a HD 6990.

The monitors aren't 3D, but they are 27in 2560x1440 resolution H-IPS monitors - so they will look amazing in games and the huge resolution (just over 11 million pixels in total) will be really useful in general use and work compared to a set of three 23.6in monitors (6.2 million pixels total).
 
cmndr_andi said:
For such a high resolution they would be a better choice and GTX 580 SLI is a fair bit faster than a HD 6990.

The monitors aren't 3D, but they are 27in 2560x1440 resolution H-IPS monitors - so they will look amazing in games and the huge resolution (just over 11 million pixels in total) will be really useful in general use and work compared to a set of three 23.6in monitors (6.2 million pixels total).
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I see. Makes perfect sense. Would it be useful to get 3 of those cards, 1 for each monitor?
 
JooJar said:
I see. Makes perfect sense. Would it be useful to get 3 of those cards, 1 for each monitor?
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It doesn't quite work like that as they would have to run together in SLI - so no single card would take charge of each screen. However, using three of these 3GB GTX 580 cards would be an idea as triple SLI scaling has got pretty good and running games over so many pixels will be very resource intensive.

If you want to go down this road then I would suggest using a P67 board which uses the NF200 bringing chip (like this board) which will allow you to run triple-SLI.

That said, running three of these cards together on one board will get pretty hot - I would probably suggest buying the triple SLI capable board and two GTX 580 3GB cards initially and see how that handles the resolution then add a further card if you feel you need more power. As suggested above, the best way to deal with all the heat of these cards (especially with three cards) is to watercool - so that may be something worth considering doing in the future if you do want to run three cards.
 
stulid said:
If anyone cares what HardOCP has to say about tri SLI?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/04/28/nvidia_geforce_3way_sli_radeon_trifire_review

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/05/03/nvidia_3way_sli_amd_trifire_redux
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Nice articles, hadn't seen these before - cheers.

Looking at the second test (where they replaced the i7 9xx with a 4.8Ghz i7 2600K) it does seem that there isn't a clear winner between tri-fire and tri-SLI at the super high resolution as they seem to trade wins in benchmarks. Personally, I would go with tri-SLI GTX 580 3GB as there is more VRAM available for use at these crazy resolutions and it seems to win more of those benchmarks, but HD 6990 + 6970 is a very good choice also for this kind of usage.
 
Based on those 2 very helpful builds above, I am going to refactor my budget, possibly look into water cooling, and get back with the product list and get some comments. Really looking forward to putting this together.
 
Would recommend a 2600k over a 990x or 980x. The only difference is that core for core the 2600 is faster, having said that the 990 and 980 have 6 cores 12 threads rather than the 4 cores 8 threads of the 2600k.

For 3D, you will be better off really sticking with Nvidia and SLI to properly power it, I would consider the 590 in this case as 3D has to render 2 versions of the same frames (1 for each eye) and the 590 will have 2 cards per eye which will give you a performance edge.

AMD/ATI do have 3D support but its not as universal as the Nvidia solution at the moment which is the only thing that really pushes me to buy Nvidia.

Another option you COULD consider is tri sli (3x580's) and maybe running some form of 3D Surround (with 3 monitors, 1 monitor per GPU). A 5k budget would easily cover that.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong anywhere, but the above is based on personal experience.
 
dont go for the 590's. 1 590 is basically two toned down 580's in SLI, that will create more heat than the sun. they say the driver updates have stopped it from overheating, but they really didnt work
 
I think I would do this with £5k maybe get some more peripherals to boot. Nice headphones, keyboard, mouse etc...

Dell UltraSharp U2711 27" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Midnight Grey £679.00
£2,037.00

OCZ Vertex 3 240GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive (VTX3-25SAT3-240G) £469.99

MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.98
£799.96

Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX1200 High Performance 1200W Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AXUK) £224.99

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor with FREE Operation Flashpoint Red River Game £215.99

MSI P67A-GD80 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £194.03

Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred (V3 with USB3.0) Ultimate Gaming Case - Black £139.99

Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £83.99

LG BH10LS30 10x BluRay-RW / 16 x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) £82.98

Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £71.99

Corsair Hydro H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1155/1156/775/AM2/AM3) £59.99

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £43.99

Sub Total : £3,687.40

Total : £4,464.36
 
[WU-TANG]GZA;19071488 said:
I think I would do this with £5k maybe get some more peripherals to boot. Nice headphones, keyboard, mouse etc...

Dell UltraSharp U2711 27" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Midnight Grey £679.00
£2,037.00

OCZ Vertex 3 240GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive (VTX3-25SAT3-240G) £469.99

MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.98
£799.96

Corsair Professional Series™ Gold AX1200 High Performance 1200W Power Supply (CMPSU-1200AXUK) £224.99

Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor with FREE Operation Flashpoint Red River Game £215.99

MSI P67A-GD80 Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION ** £194.03

Antec 1200 Twelve Hundred (V3 with USB3.0) Ultimate Gaming Case - Black £139.99

Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £83.99

LG BH10LS30 10x BluRay-RW / 16 x DVD±RW Drive - Black (OEM) £82.98

Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £71.99

Corsair Hydro H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/1155/1156/775/AM2/AM3) £59.99

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £43.99

Sub Total : £3,687.40

Total : £4,464.36
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The monitors don't support 3D, so I would swap them for something like this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-043-BQ&groupid=17&catid=1851&subcat=

Also would swap the motherboard to a P67a UD7 (Which OC no longer seem to do, so I would wait for the Z68 equivalent) and then add a 3rd GTX 580, then use 3d surround :cool:.

If you don't want to go down the 3D route then fair enough the Dell's are better monitors and the suggested system in the quoted post would be a good call :rolleyes:.

Also for the sake of an extra £70 you may as well double the Ram to 16GB by adding a second set of 2x4GB sticks.
 
sldsmkd said:
Why would anyone spend £5k on a PC? Beyond me.
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lol Iv'e spent about 3600 on mine tbh. I'm not sure why, it just felt like a project. I was told things wouldn't work etc and Iv'e prooved them wrong, I do put it to good use so I don't regret spending any of it :).
 
5k, using it for work and reluctant to overclock suggests a xeon based system to me.

If you're determined to go down the glorified gaming computer route, I'd suggest speaking to the people at ocuk in person and getting them to assemble the computer. Your opening post suggests you lack the knowledge to specify it yourself, and the forum consensus isn't likely to be especially sensible. It's not our money after all.
 
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