My turn for a linux thread

going to set this up soon *waiting for the ubuntu download* is it best to run 2xSMP clients or 1smp and a normal gpu folding one in windows??

i dont need a lot of resources just basic IM and internet really..

thanks
 
SiriusB said:
To be fair Concorde you are running an OS within an OS. VMWare was designed to allow developers to mess around with OSs and software in a safe and convenient environment. You can't run a high demand application [F@H] within another high demand application [VMWare] and expect to be able to play games too!

SiriusB
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Hang on, how the hell does that work? All im telling windows is that vmware is low priority and only gets CPU cycles other high priority arn't using. If it can't do that its pretty **** tbh.
 
It's not just CPU cycles. It's RAM and Disk access too. You are running two OSs concurrently on one machine. One of those OSs is running an SMP client which takes up another load of RAM. And you want to play games too?

Even if your machine can play a game under these conditions I doubt you would achieve anything other than making your machine work its nuts off for very minimal foldy type gain.

Just turn VMWare off when you game. It's easy :D

SiriusB
 
Concorde Rules said:
Hang on, how the hell does that work? All im telling windows is that vmware is low priority and only gets CPU cycles other high priority arn't using. If it can't do that its pretty **** tbh.
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Not sure what you mean now? From my example above, I've found it less than halves. As stan said, it's good at keeping resources. Low priority doesn't mean none, they still share to an extent I assume.

I'm not turning it off Sirius, 400ppd when gaming? :D
 
I have 2Gb, and when im playing EVE Online or Live for Speed or anything apart from any flight sim then folding doesn't have any impact on CPU/HD or mem usage. Even when im playing FS-X I don't turn folding off.

Im quite happy for the client to use 500MB or even 1Gb, as thats still enough to do what im doing in the foreground.

I just want it to let CPU cycles go when games or things with a higher priority need them and HD usage isn't gonna be massive is it? Like 1mb/s or something, and then I highly doubt that if its using 1Gb of ram...
 
I know what you mean conc. With the normal client it doesn't get a look in when gaming. I mean nothing, hardly any cpu time at all.

Vmware is greedy apparently and uses cpu time regardless of priority. The priority just changes how greedy it is :D
 
joeyjojo said:
I know what you mean conc. With the normal client it doesn't get a look in when gaming. I mean nothing, hardly any cpu time at all.

Vmware is greedy apparently and uses cpu time regardless of priority. The priority just changes how greedy it is :D
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Thats extremely poor tbh. It should follow what windows gives it :rolleyes: All its running is a complex program. Quite happy to let it have 5% of a core to do all the system stuff it has to do, but other wise it uses what it gets given :/
 
got mine installed and its taken 10 minutes a frame on my 6400 @ 3.2 using about 80% cpu.

Project 3025 (Run 5, Clone 171, Gen 1)

so.. what do i do now.. do i just run 1 SMP client in Linux and run my GPU in windows to get the best PPD?

help would be appreciated.. thanks
 
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StevenG said:
got mine installed and its taken 10 minutes a frame on my 6400 @ 3.2 using about 80% cpu.

Project 3025 (Run 5, Clone 171, Gen 1)

so.. what do i do now.. do i just run 1 SMP client in Linux and run my GPU in windows to get the best PPD?

help would be appreciated.. thanks
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Well that is what im doing. I believe Rich is also.

I did try 2 SMP's but it made my pc unusable.
 
well the way its working out is that the SMP client is getting 60-80% of my cpu and the GPU core is getting about 15-20

my cpu never seems to hit 100% either.. i went into the GPU config and changed it to LOW and request 50% CPU to get it at what it is now..

should i have left it at idle or something?

thanks for any advice.
 
My pc has similar cpu usage. I have tried adjusting the prioritys but that hasn't changed the cpu usage or frame times. They were just discussing in this thread how power hungry VMware is. That is the problem I think, despite what setting you may have.

What frame times are you getting on you GPU and what GPU do you have.
 
well i'll just leave it and see what happens with my PPD,

im writing this from linux and its spell checking things i type :) nice lol

i cant see me using a linux os as my main its just a bit complicated for my liking.

happy using it to get more points when folding though. i'll see what happens with my scores. i think its taking just under 9 minutes to do a frame.

at least this will give me a boost on those horrible WU's ive been getting from the windows client. will get FahMon on linux now and see what the score is..

*does FahMon work on linux and give you all the info?*
 
I would have thought a 1900xt would be faster than that....why not try running 2 SMP's. Im assuming you have a dual core.
 
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20 Minutes a frame will be giving you about 30+ hours to complete a WU. So that is probably about 250PPD if that. To be honest if you can't get at least 600PPD out of your GPU there isn't much point. Running two SMP clients would give you better overall PPD without the hurricaine inducing GPU fan :D

As for FAHMon you are best installing Wine and running the Windows version.

Heres how:

1: Download the WINDOWS version of the FAHMon file here and save it to your home folder.

2: Open a terminal window and run these commands one after the other pressing enter after each:

Code: 
cd ~/Desktop 
wget -c http://download26.mediafire.com/z4yyznm5wfkg/ftmhzzxwd3z/wine.tar.gz 
gzip -dc wine.tar.gz | tar xf - 
cd ~/Desktop/wine 
./wine

3: Unzip the FaHMon.zip file [use Archive Manager] and then double click the .exe file. A new window will open and the FaHMon.exe will be highlighted. Double click it again and it should open :D [You can close the "File Manager" window that opened up].

SiriusB
 
I'm running a smp under vmware and running two windows clients at the same time, I find this gives a good balance and the machine is still usable with two smps running you can pretty much rule out any use of the pc.

On a E6600 at 3.2ghz its taking just over 5m 30s a frame with the 3025 unit which works out at a little over 1500ppd and the two windows clients are doing those awful 2025 WUs at a little under 2 hours a frame not great PPD from these however they didn't slow down the SMP client at all so thought I may aswell run them, also a good backup if the SMP goes belly up when I'm not at home.

Lowering the vmware client to a low priorty does drop the usage down when doing heavy cpu tasks like games/encoding you can play a game with it running in the background without a huge slow down in the game.
 
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