My View On Vista

[gareth170]

Can you play Ac3 encoded files through your S/Pdiff and get full 5.1 surround?


Do you leave your PC on for days at a time connected to p2p via az or utorrent?

Just because they dont affect you, doesnt mean they are not bugs or issues. The world does not begin and end with you!

1. yes i get full 5.1, i agree not by spdif but that isn't vista fault, its the drivers fault...

2. (i don't download torrents) but yes my pc on 24/7 and i don't get disconnected

so what are u gonna say about that???

where did i say The world does begin and end with me?

 

[marc2003]

I get good FPS with Nvidia drivers and gaming is a pleasure on Vista, due to the "Games" folder.

i also get good fps with my ati card but how do you get more pleasure from the games folder?

 

[something daft already!!]

i also get good fps with my ati card but how do you get more pleasure from the games folder?

Box art, game ratings, age ratings, further options via "play" and parental controls.

 

[something daft already!!]

1. yes i get full 5.1, i agree not by spdif but that isn't vista fault, its the drivers fault...

2. (i don't download torrents) but yes my pc on 24/7 and i don't get disconnected

so what are u gonna say about that???

where did i say The world does begin and end with me?

1 yes i said that

2 Good for you.

Bugs I have and many of these issues are documented on the Microsoft Tech net forum. A little research is all you need to do. The issue with "Loss of connectivity" has been around since the betas and is still not resolved for many users who all have different set-ups. The four gb issue is well documented and also affects many chipsets and memory configs. I have spoken with many a disgruntled user who bought the extra 2 gig to make it 4 gb. This issue affects 64 bit version of OS.

Your reply to my comments was aggressive and dismissive and showed a lack of empathy or thought. Just because you personally don't have these issues, does not mean they do not affect many other people, hence my statement.

 

[csmager]

Bugs I have and many of these issues are documented on the Microsoft Tech net forum. A little research is all you need to do. The issue with "Loss of connectivity" has been around since the betas and is still not resolved for many users who all have different set-ups. The four gb issue is well documented and also affects many chipsets and memory configs. I have spoken with many a disgruntled user who bought the extra 2 gig to make it 4 gb. This issue affects 64 bit version of OS.

But the very fact that it doesn't affect all systems means it's more likely to be a driver issue. For example, my laptop's network connection used to die all the time during the beta and RC stages, and even in the RTM. Since new drivers were installed, it's disappeared.

 

[gareth170]

1 yes i said that

2 Good for you.

Bugs I have and many of these issues are documented on the Microsoft Tech net forum. A little research is all you need to do. The issue with "Loss of connectivity" has been around since the betas and is still not resolved for many users who all have different set-ups. The four gb issue is well documented and also affects many chipsets and memory configs. I have spoken with many a disgruntled user who bought the extra 2 gig to make it 4 gb. This issue affects 64 bit version of OS.

Your reply to my comments was aggressive and dismissive and showed a lack of empathy or thought. Just because you personally don't have these issues, does not mean they do not affect many other people, hence my statement.

ohhh get off your high horse..

i wasn't having a go at u.. u may of read my post wrong...

as for the 4gb issue. what do u mean?

i don't care what it says on Microsoft Tech net forum... im just saying it doesn't happen in every system... as said above...

every system is different...

and why are u having a go at me? even csmager said:

That's a bit random! But all the other things you mentioned are easily driver or BIOS issues.

 

[mcwildcard]

as for the 4gb issue. what do u mean?

Seconded, I've not heard of any 4GB 'issues'?
Personally, I love Vista x64.
Using XP 32 now feels like wading through treacle, I did set up a dual boot, but have only used it twice. Couldn't ever go back, MS have done really well (although considering the time it took nothing less should be expected), it's just the hardware manufacturers that have been really slack in sorting out the drivers for their products which cause problems.

 

[ShakenNstirred]

went from XP to vista 64bit ultimate on my laptop and i haven't seen any slow down in the few games i have played on it.
I'm very happy with vista and I'm not going back to XP

 

[prescott28]

I'd agree with ShakernNStirred, no problems at all after putting Vista 64 bit on my machine. Even quite old games like GTA Vice City work. However, I ma not sure if there is any benefit in the new OS. So far as I can see it is nice and shiney new but I'm not sure it offers anything much except with DX10 and I suspect many of us will be across to the OverClockers site to rep[lace graphics cards to use it.

I expect out of laziness I will stick to it and not revert to XP though. It sounds too much like hard work to find all the drivers Vista produced by itself.

 

[something daft already!!]

But the very fact that it doesn't affect all systems means it's more likely to be a driver issue. For example, my laptop's network connection used to die all the time during the beta and RC stages, and even in the RTM. Since new drivers were installed, it's disappeared.

Thanks for your reply. I cant see how memory would be affected by drivers, its more likely BIOS. I understand Vista uses "Memory remapping" which can cause issues. I think they need to look into this. Network connectivity affected three different PCs I owned and many others out there. I have tried 6 different NICs, different Drivers (MS and manufacturer) over three PCs with different chipsets, all of which experienced this issue. Each of the issues I have highlighted I have researched and found no answer to, other than, there are other people affected. If this were a driver issue, surely removing the driver then re-installing would fix? But no, the only way to fix is to restart the "Network connectivity" service. This is a service, not a driver. I am not knocking Vista, I have already said I enjoy using it, its just not quite 100% as yet, for me and many like me, then I do use my PC an awful lot and for many things.

 

[m4cc45]

Only time I ever had network problems were on a Wireless NIC. Since updating the drivers to that it's gone away.

Sadly most of the problems you are going to experience with Vista is down to driver updates from the manufacturers (i.e. Creative releasing beta drivers that had to be uninstalled way before the proper drivers were out, etc.). Its just manufacturers not wanting to spend more money on development when they are not actually making money from it.



M.

 

[5tephen]

Vista is good, there's no two ways about it, if there are complaints it's either because of third-party drivers, or that certain features are in different places compared to XP.
I've seen it getting better since its release, particularly because of various releases for Server 2003 that improve its compatibility with Vista. At the start Vista was a pain for networking but again this was because Server 2003 wasn't fully up to date to work with it.

Two things I am having problems with though:
Mapping a shared printer from another PC always seems to crash the print spooler service. I then have to restart the print spooler and map the printer again, and it works.
There is no wireless network icon that I can tell people to right-click and select Repair Got so many silly phone calls in the past that were solved by just telling people to do this. Now you have to click the network icon, go to network and sharing centre, go to the network connection in question, click diagnose and repair, and even this takes a couple of minutes. So now I just tell people to restart their machines

The search feature is good though, the fact that you no longer have to open a new window to get what you're looking for. Just a pity you have to type * at the start or end of the search term to indicate a wildcard whereas this wasn't necessary before. E.g. in 2000/XP, searching for bcd would give the result abcde, but in Vista it won't find anything unless you type *bcd.
These are things I was used to in XP, but it could be worse

 

[Final8y]

I enjoy using Vista also, but is it not without its bugs. There are only so many issues which can be blamed on 3rd parties. I have completely ditched XP now, not even bothering to dual boot, I need the space.

Here are a few bugs which I have come across and can remember:

Folder views change during a reboot, for example, the games folder will display as large icons one minute, then next they shift to details, possibly after a reboot.

Vista loses network connectivity after between 12-16 hours of being on. The only way to resolve (other than reboot) is to stop, then start the Network connectivity service.

Vista will not recognize 4 gb of Ram correctly. It will either stall or not boot at all with it installed (possibly BIOS/Windows related, works fine in XP, linux)

Vista changed the way sound is processed so AC3 wont work (possibly driver issue, may get better as these mature)

I can live with the above until fixes are found and generally enjoy using the OS. I get good FPS with Nvidia drivers and gaming is a pleasure on Vista, due to the "Games" folder.

I don't use Media centre, seems a waste of time to me when you get the perfectly good Media Player and I can locate and play files much quicker. Winamp is the only solution for music for me, I love its nice uncomplicated, long list of music, I find it a nightmare trying to find stuff with Media centre. I think Media centre should have been searchable.

JMHO

I dont have any of them problems you mentioned.