Myths about Motors...

Joe T · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:28

That 3 series compact 'ti' models had turbos....

Peerzy · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:48

Fiat's break after 2 minutes.
The answer to all of lifes problems is a MK3 Ford Mondeo.

PMKeates · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:51

Flywheel torque is more important than power when considering how fast a car is.

Disco Boy · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:51

MrLOL said:
manufacturers have been known to do worse than not dipping the clutch to get the best 0-60 times.

Non production tires, mild engine tuning, taping up panel gaps, removing spoilers etc.. its all been done in an attempt to get the best times.

As well as doing it in a massively laden car so that it's slow and in a lower insurance group. This used to be done by the French with their hot hatches I seem to remember, particularly the gti-6 comes to mind.

Trifid · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:54

Orange Peel said:
It's when I put my foot flat against the pedal I find it annoying.

I thought that was the case, in which case I also don't like doing that. Just moving your heal away from the pedal and using your toe to accelerate and there is very little difference between the two.

Prophet · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:57

Trifid said:
I thought that was the case, in which case I also don't like doing that. Just moving your heal away from the pedal and using your toe to accelerate and there is very little difference between the two.

I did try that but for some reason (probably being lanky) it feels really odd compared to top hinged pedals. It's probably just me lol.

DAIR · 21 Mar 2011 at 11:57

Joe T said:
That 3 series compact 'ti' models had turbos....

Worse car BMW have ever made imo!

ash_scotland88 · 21 Mar 2011 at 12:07

f00f1ght0r said:
- 0-60MPH manufacturer times are achieved without dipping the clutch

What are yours, and what are your thoughts on the above?

I heard in the pug306 they tested it with a (young) family of 4 for the 0-60 time due to it being the majority aimed market. A boot filled with the usual gubbins of prams etc too. Or at least the equivalent weight.
So in reality 0-60 with just the driver would be faster.

edit:

Disco Boy said:
As well as doing it in a massively laden car so that it's slow and in a lower insurance group. This used to be done by the French with their hot hatches I seem to remember, particularly the gti-6 comes to mind.

Just read back up the thread to found this.

Berger · 21 Mar 2011 at 12:24

ash_scotland88 said:
I heard in the pug306 they tested it with a (young) family of 4 for the 0-60 time due to it being the majority aimed market. A boot filled with the usual gubbins of prams etc too. Or at least the equivalent weight.
So in reality 0-60 with just the driver would be faster.

edit:

Just read back up the thread to found this.

Yup, parkers lists the 0-60 of the GTI-6 and the Rallye as 8.5 seconds.

EVO have it timed at 6.9 for the Rallye and 7.2 for the GTI.

A <1200kg car with nearly 170bhp doesn't take 8.5 to 60, anyone can see that!

Matt82 · 21 Mar 2011 at 12:38

an aftermarket "performance" filter will change your life and re arrange your face with unhuman levels of accelerative force.

FACT

Disco Boy · 21 Mar 2011 at 12:43

Matt82 said:
an aftermarket "performance" filter will change your life and re arrange your face with unhuman levels of accelerative force.

FACT

Of course. On an even more ridiculous level, resistors of power and magnets which move mountains etc.

Prophet · 21 Mar 2011 at 12:52

Disco Boy said:
Of course. On an even more ridiculous level, resistors of power and magnets which move mountains etc.

If you combined all of these power mods it said that you'll have enough power to escape the pull of a black hole!

[TW]Fox · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:01

f00f1ght0r said:
- Diesel only becomes economical on longer journeys vs. Petrol

Sure thats a myth?

Wait, let me just close that can of worms

Vonhelmet · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:01

MrLOL said:
I thought you could ?

Granted it would destroy your gearbox if you carried on doing it, but doing it was technically possible

didnt somebody do it on the top gear reasonably priced car ?

In my old Corsa you could easily get from 3rd to 4th without using the clutch if you did it at the right speed.

Now, whether that was mad skillz or just that the gearbox was knackered, I don't know.

Cuchulain · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:08

Matt82 said:
an aftermarket "performance" filter will change your life and re arrange your face with unhuman levels of accelerative force.

FACT

Local motor factors shop tried to sell me an "performance" air filter for a Picasso, £49.95 as opposed to the £6.95 generic motaquip one .. guess which one I picked?

MikeHiow · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:17

Golf MK3 16V actually had around 170bhp but was listed as 150bhp to avoid harming VR6 sales.

(I'm not promoting or discrediting this myth, btw).

Sneaky Peaky · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:35

Only one of these statements is true..guess which is which..

a) It is a little known fact that after market BOV's improve a cars performance in direct relation to it's loudness.

b) It is a little known fact that after market BOV's improve a persons barry boy rating in direct relation to it's loudness.

Greboth · 21 Mar 2011 at 13:40

Come on thats easy, any true car enthuiast knows that BOV's give more powerz. Just like sticking the free stickers you get in max power down the door gives you 10 bhp per sticker.

Disco Boy · 21 Mar 2011 at 14:51

vonhelmet said:
In my old Corsa you could easily get from 3rd to 4th without using the clutch if you did it at the right speed.

Now, whether that was mad skillz or just that the gearbox was knackered, I don't know.

Of course you could, you can change gear by matching the revs in any car with a conventional manual gearbox. Whether clutchless shifting will improve your 0-60 time I'm not sure, if it were me it would definitely be a lot slower.

Firestar_3x · 21 Mar 2011 at 14:55

VW's are reliable.