n00b alert! - Is this a good pic?

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Been out snapping this morning, with my quite frankly crappy Kodak DX6490. Had a play in photoshop to try and sort things out and got this. Now I'm convinced I need a DSLR to get into photography, but I'm trying anyway :p

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Yeh they're ok!
structured well, and good for what they are, cant find masterpieces everywhere, id cut the 2nd off at the end of the web though, the same width as the first, dont like the unnecessary green near the end.
 
lol, it looks like Messiah Kahns influence is spreading.

they're not bad, the first is the better of the two. if it were up to me, i'd crop a large portion of the second one out, like so:
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not a bad camera, yours, if it can do F-2.8 max.
 
Thanks guys :)

i know very little about photography, but i'd like to. Don't even know what f2.8 means but i've seen the setting on the camera :p

the first pic i spent time getting right in PS but the second one i quickly cropped and uploaded. Guess thats the difference.
 
Thanks guys :) Imagine how good they'd be if I had any idea what I'm doing :p

What's good about them - what am I doing right and wrong?
 
I've got to say, the concept of constructive criticism is really lost on the OcUK photog forum. I personally think that these images are pretty bad, and saying 'Great' and 'cool!' really isn't helping anyone to progress.

The first and last images are overexposed (the last especially), the sky is totally bleached out and any definition in the trees is completely shot. The spiders-web image looks as though it's been cropped heavily or maybe you were using digital zoom. It may simply be that the camera's just terrible, but try playing with the manual mode a little (if it has one) and adjusting the shutter speed and aperture so that the camera captures less light (so that the edges of trees and so on aren't bleached out by bright light). Balance is key y0.
 
benneh said:
I've got to say, the concept of constructive criticism is really lost on the OcUK photog forum. I personally think that these images are pretty bad, and saying 'Great' and 'cool!' really isn't helping anyone to progress.

The first and last images are overexposed (the last especially), the sky is totally bleached out and any definition in the trees is completely shot. The spiders-web image looks as though it's been cropped heavily or maybe you were using digital zoom. It may simply be that the camera's just terrible, but try playing with the manual mode a little (if it has one) and adjusting the shutter speed and aperture so that the camera captures less light (so that the edges of trees and so on aren't bleached out by bright light). Balance is key y0.

I intend to play with the manual mode when I figure out what it all means. I was by no means thinking any of these were good tbh, and a few pointers is what I'm after. Thanks :)
 
DailyGeek said:
Now I'm convinced I need a DSLR to get into photography, but I'm trying anyway :p
Do you really, honestly think that a DSLR will answer your problems of poor composition and technique?

Maybe if you could explain what your thoughts were when taking these shots and what you struggled with when trying to capture the image you saw in your mind, people could better understand what you are trying to achieve and where you are failing.

There are a lot of good photographers on here but nobody is going to be able to help you become a better one yourself unless you can tell them, in whatever words you feel comfortable with, where you are struggling and what you want to get out of photography.
 
glitch said:
Do you really, honestly think that a DSLR will answer your problems of poor composition and technique?

Maybe if you could explain what your thoughts were when taking these shots and what you struggled with when trying to capture the image you saw in your mind, people could better understand what you are trying to achieve and where you are failing.

There are a lot of good photographers on here but nobody is going to be able to help you become a better one yourself unless you can tell them, in whatever words you feel comfortable with, where you are struggling and what you want to get out of photography.

Well.

I have no technique and no idea of composition.

My knowledge of photography so far is roughly nothing. Point and shoot. I went out with my camera this morning and just thought I'd take a few snaps so I can see what looks interesting, what might make a good photo. I know as much as how to switch on the macro mode for close ups, but thats about it. The camera is a cumbersome 4MP thing and I left it in auto mode.

Trying to get any sort of depth to the pictures was impossible, simply because I didn't really know what I was doing. Depth of field or something is it? I have no idea.

I intend to read up on technique and settings etc - just wanted some input on whats good/bad about what I managed to snap this morning.
 
Last one is not very good as it appears overexposed and blurred. Have you done any post processing on this in cs2?

What camera are you using?
 
howell80 said:
Last one is not very good as it appears overexposed and blurred. Have you done any post processing on this in cs2?

What camera are you using?

Just unsharp mask and auto levels tbh, not that great with PS.

It's a Kodak DX6490, not the greatest bit of kit, and not very new.
 
Thats not as easy a question to answer in my opinion as you'd think, as i tried to argue not long ago.
In my opinion, you should know whats right about them by looking, photography is an art, (some people have it, others dont no matter how hard they try or what the buy) and if you can invisage it, then knowing your equipment only helps to complete the process better. Saying that il explain.

The last picture is good because the focus point draws me from the left to the mid right, it makes me feel as if im being drawn to the pathway enterance, the trees bend from a right side to a left so the picture has what is known as dynamic lining (where lines of objects cross from side to side, or converge at a point) as well as the tree tower over the low angle and make me feel quite small.
Forget about the lines and shapes for a moment, and try to think about what a photo represents, something most people never learn and is very scarce on this particular forum. Representation i think is easily as important as shapes and techniques in photography. For example, the symbology of an anorexic person outside mcdonalds, or an old person in a hospital, connotes death and illness, not just a person next to a restuarant or a person in a bed.
Your particular picture gives off i think some mystery, a whats in the woods feel, slightly sinister maybe not intentional but worthy and something you should try to include.


Ignoring the colours and quality its a good though out shot for a beginner. Well done
//edit but like i said you'll get a lot of this
howell80 said:
Last one is not very good as it appears overexposed and blurred. Have you done any post processing on this in cs2?

What camera are you using?
 
ChroniC said:
Thats not as easy a question to answer in my opinion as you'd think, as i tried to argue not long ago.
In my opinion, you should know whats right about them by looking, photography is an art, (some people have it, others dont no matter how hard they try or what the buy) and if you can invisage it, then knowing your equipment only helps to complete the process better. Saying that il explain.

The last picture is good because the focus point draws me from the left to the mid right, it makes me feel as if im being drawn to the pathway enterance, the trees bend from a right side to a left so the picture has what is known as dynamic lining (where lines of objects cross from side to side, or converge at a point) as well as the tree tower over the low angle and make me feel quite small.
Forget about the lines and shapes for a moment, and try to think about what a photo represents, something most people never learn and is very scarce on this particular forum. Representation i think is easily as important as shapes and techniques in photography. For example, the symbology of an anorexic person outside mcdonalds, or an old person in a hospital, connotes death and illness, not just a person next to a restuarant or a person in a bed.
Your particular picture gives off i think some mystery, a whats in the woods feel, slightly sinister maybe not intentional but worthy and something you should try to include.


Ignoring the colours and quality its a good though out shot for a beginner. Well done
//edit but like i said you'll get a lot of this

Thank you :)

I thought it looked kinda creepy too :p

Anyone know why a few of my pics have come out 'purpley?'
 
DailyGeek said:
Well.

I have no technique and no idea of composition.
You can go and read every book about compisition that has ever been written, but it's not going to make your a better photographer unless you understand for yourself what you like and dislike.

When you were taking these three pictures, run us through what you were thinking, why you thought they'd make a good shot and what is puzzling you about the results you have shown us.

DailyGeek said:
My knowledge of photography so far is roughly nothing. Point and shoot. I went out with my camera this morning and just thought I'd take a few snaps so I can see what looks interesting, what might make a good photo. I know as much as how to switch on the macro mode for close ups, but thats about it. The camera is a cumbersome 4MP thing and I left it in auto mode.
And this is a perfect example of why the recent spate of comments about being better off with a DSLR is leaving me baffled.

I'm not having a pop at you here, DailyGeek, I'm just wondering why you think owning a DSLR will 'get you into photography'. It's an honest question, with no malice attached, and I'd like to hear your answer.

DailyGeek said:
Trying to get any sort of depth to the pictures was impossible, simply because I didn't really know what I was doing. Depth of field or something is it? I have no idea.
This is more like it. You were trying to get depth into the photos you've taken? How so? Did you want more of them in focus? Did you want to get a feeling of depth into the photo?

DailyGeek said:
I intend to read up on technique and settings etc - just wanted some input on whats good/bad about what I managed to snap this morning.
In all honestly there's little good I could comment on. Do you want me to say 'Great shot!' and leave it at that, or should I be a little more critical of your efforts and try and get you to open up and discuss things a little more?
 
DailyGeek said:
Thank you :)

I thought it looked kinda creepy too :p

Anyone know why a few of my pics have come out 'purpley?'

probably got the white balance set to indoor?

And this is a perfect example of why the recent spate of comments about being better off with a DSLR is leaving me baffled.
lol where were you when i was getting called a Fool for suggesting the same thing. :)
 
ChroniC said:
lol where were you when i was getting called a Fool for suggesting the same thing. :)
Probably banging my head against a brick wall after seeing the same comment repeated for the umpteenth time.

It's almost as bad as being told/asked 'Wow, that's a great picture - you must have a great camera!'.
 
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