NASCAR Sprint Cup 2010 Season - Round 1 - Daytona

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This will NASCAR's 62nd season, and is shaping up to be.....well.....

Honestly, who's going to stop Jimmie Johnson? Who? Seriously. For the love of God, he's won four titles on the trot now. I wouldn't be betting against a 5th. I'd love to see his Hendrick Motorsports team-mates get right up with him (Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Mark Martin), and I'd love to see Earnhardt Ganassi Racing give Juan Montoya a car that can challenge for the title. Oh, and it'd be nice to see one of the few remaining Dodges get the odd decent result. But being realistic, JJ has to be favourite. By a looooooooooooooooooooooong way.

And actually, in the end I'm easy with that. Just as long as a ******* Toyota driver (particularly Kyle Busch) or a Roush Fenway Racing driver doesn't win it. As long as the racing is good, that's all that matters.

So, Daytona! One of the two tracks that actually are pretty much flat out all the way around. 2.5 miles, with 31° turns and a 3° tilt to the straights. The front stretch is 3800ft long, with a 3000ft backstretch. So the cars have plenty of drafting (slipstreaming) time to get a reasonable pace going.

Something that could help this year is a relaxation of the bump-drafting rule. The drivers will be allowed a little more flexibility in how hard they bump each other on the super-speedways when trying to gain speed and also where they bump each other. The rule for the last few years has been no bumping in the turns and no big hits anywhere. It's about time that rule was relaxed somewhat. I believe they've also changed the restrictor plate size (the plate that goes between carb and inlet fannymould to reduce the horsepower and keep speeds sane at Daytona and Talladega) to give the cars a little more oomph.

Cup race is on the 14th. I'll update the thread before then with links to race streams.
 
I'm hoping for Montoya to do a bit better and mount a good challenge for the title, but as you say, Jimmie Johnson has to be odds on, his performance in the chase last year was completely dominant,

Although that kind of leads onto my problem with NASCAR, it's basically 26 races that are kinda pointless, followed by 10 that actually matter, I watched 9 of the 10 chase rounds last year but mayber 2 of the pre-chase, they just don't interest me in the same way...

Also I'd like to see Earnhardt do a lot better, he posts semi-regularly on the iRacing boards and comes across both there and in the media in general as a very likeable bloke, obviously with some talent but with some rotten luck last year.

On the topic of iRacing, they doing the 'world tour' events this year, which is 14 iRacing versions of real life races, they started a couple of weekends ago with the '2.4 hours of Daytona' in the Riley, next race is the Daytona 500 (literally the full 200 laps, in the COT car) starting at midnight on saturday GMT, reckon it'll be good fun if I can avoid the inevitable carnage for the first few laps :p
 
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Well, the Duels are over - Jimmie Johnson won the first, Kasey Kahne the second. Margin of victory for Johnson over Kevin Harvick - 0.005sec. Doesn't get very much closer than that! He ran that race in his backup car as well, having bent the prime machine on Wednesday.

Unofficial results - Race 1, Race 2.
 
Johnson has to be favourite again for the title. The chase races at the end of the season just happen to be the tracks he likes and is good at. As long as he finishes in the top 12 overall by the time the chase starts then he will make up any ground he has lost. No way will Earnhardt mount a challenge, he is the most over rated driver in the world. Everyone has had the blame for his bad results with new crew chiefs and even when he had the best equipment with Hendrick cars he still failed to win a race and even make the chase. He might not even win the who sold the most tee-shirts award (unofficial) now Danica Patrick is in Nascar.

If anyone can stop JJ from being champ again then it most probably will be Kyle Busch. He is capable of putting up a good sequence of results and winning a string of races. If that happens in the chase then he has a chance. If they put a road course in the chase races that would increase Smokes chances of winning but unfortunately there isn't. Montoya will be very competitve this year but he probably has less friends on the track than Kyle Busch and no doubt be involved in many an incident that will affect his results especially since they have given the drivers the go ahead to race and get stuck into each other this season. Kasey Kahne will also be competitve as will Denny Hamlin.

My gut feeling is the chase being JJ v the Joe Gibbs cars (not Logano) for the title but there will be more teams competitive during the season with some good racing.
 
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Earnhardt has the talent to challenge for the title, but I do think he can get into the Chase, eg do better than 25th was it last year?

Take last night as an example, he was driving fairly well imo, car was good, he was up in the top 10-ish for most of the time, and then during the pit stop there's an issue with the wheel jack it looked like, hence he dropped pretty much to the back, and then he lost the draft (didn't actually catch how that happened). He should've done much better in that race, and it wasn't (all) down to him that he didn't...

JJ will almost definately get into the chase, and if he can dominate like he did last year (and presumably the 3 years before that) then he's won again, simple :p
 
Earnhardt has failed to make the chase twice in the last 3 years. If it was not for his surname he would be done by now. Last night he had an incident with Kesolowski on pit entry and dinged his car, that's what delayed him in the pits. He has too many incidents in the pits such as driving right past his bay. He will struggle to make the chase. JJ, Gordon, Martin, Stewart, Kahne, Montoya, Busch, Kenseth, Edwards, Hamlin are probably certain to make the chase leaving 2 spots to fight for. That leaves Biffle, Harvick, Kurt Busch and Junior fighting for 2 places. Maybe Kurt Busch gets in if there is a smooth transition to working with his new crew chief leaving 1 space. I just see another season of excuses and mistakes for the 88 and it being everyone elses fault apart from the one thing that has been there through all the changes ie the driver.
 
I think that's a bit harsh, he's bin in the top level of nascar for 10 years, he finished inside the top 12 on 6 out of those 10 years (this is admittedly completely ignoring the idea of the chase, although half those years the chase didn't exist), hell his best is 3rd overall, that's not the sign of a crap driver is it?

Yeah he's not exactly setting records, but he's a solid driver, usually. He may not make the chase, but I think he will, I'm almost certain he'll get better than 25th this year, but definately not win and most probably not even a top 5...

I didn't see him tangle with Brad tbh, but fair enough I'll retract that bit :p
 
If anyone can stop JJ from being champ again then it most probably will be Kyle Busch.

I really hope you're wrong. Kyle "Petulant Little *****™" Busch has to be the most unlikeable little **** out there. I find myself in the same position with him as I did with Lewis Hamilton - respect the talent, not got much time for the personality. Hamilton at least went some way last season to change that. Kyle Busch hasn't yet. The only driver out there who I dislike to even nearly the same level is Marcos ******* Ambrose.

as will Denny Hamlin.

Think on that Denny is carrying a knee injury this season (anterior cruciate ligament is twanged, can't get it sorted until the end of the year as he'd miss too much of the season otherwise). His stamina in races shouldn't be too bad, but if he gets into a big wreck and knocks it then it could put him right out of the frame.

By the way - a shot of the end of the 1st Duel. This is what that margin of victory looked like:

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The grid for the Cup race: link. Barring engine changes or the like, that's how they'll line up.

Truck race is on tonight. Still looking for a stream for it myself, but given the fairly rubbish (read: ******* diabolical) state of the internet connection here I'm not exactly rating my chances of watching this one live....Shame really, because the trucks are usually the best of the weekend from a 'show' standpoint.


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Oh hell.....it's raining at Daytona. ****.



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Removed the drunken keyboard rage ;)
 
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Are we allowed to post links to streams here?

Got one stream that I watch fairly regularly and it works well, turned it on earlier to watch the nationwide qualifying and saw the rain, stream is currently off but last I heard the rain had stopped/mostly stopped so it may go ahead late, not sure...

EDIT: apparantly the rain stopped a while back, and they're out drying the track now...

EDIT2: Or not, postponed to 6:30pm EST tomorrow (so 23:30 for us?)
 
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I am looking forward to the Nationwide today just to see how Danica does. A lot of cup racers are in the field so she is in at the deep end for her first Nationwide race. I can see Smoke and Kyle having fun again tonight.
 
what channel does nascar get shown on?

No Channel has picked up the full season live coverage. The Daytona 500 is live on Skysports tomorrow though. Sky have got the highlights package that Channel 5 had last year. Apart from that we have to rely on internet streams.
 
Smoke won the Nationwide race for the 5th time in 6 years. Danica Patrick was taken out in a big wreck that was not her fault. She had no where to go as cars wrecked in front of her. Carl Edwards caused a big crash that took Junior out who was running well at the time. No doubt Junior nation will issue a fatwa against Cousin Carl now.
 
Smoke won the Nationwide race for the 5th time in 6 years.

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Danica Patrick was taken out in a big wreck that was not her fault. She had no where to go as cars wrecked in front of her.

Unfortunate thing is, the haters won't remember that. All they'll fixate on is that she wrecked.

No doubt Junior nation will issue a fatwa against Cousin Carl now.

Hope springs eternal....
 
The truck race results.

Race report.

There's a mildly illegal torrent of the race floating around if you know where to look and want to watch it. I managed to watch the bulk of it live, but it was pretty hard at times as my internet connection is barely even there.

As for the cup race, the green flag should drop at 18:19 GMT. Sky Sports 3 are showing it (their one and only race this season :rolleyes:), for anyone who isn't paying for Murdoch's mission to show football every single hour of the day there's the odd stream to be found online.
 
12 laps into the Dayona 500, caution is out. Imagine that, Brad Keselowski was involved in a crash. I'm stunned.

Top three haven't pitted.


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I'm sorry, but the Fox commentary team has to be one of the best in motorsport TV in the world. Far, far better than the shower of **** we get later in the season. It's about time NASCAR twigged this one and let Fox and Speed Channel annex off the entire year.
 
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As an observation so far, it seems like the restrictor plate changes are having an effect. RPMs are a couple of hundred higher, top speed is slightly increased. None of which has stopped Mark Martin getting the Daytona Middle Lane Shuffle™ mind.....:(


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That Old Spice advert is great :D


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Jesus, this doesn't look like Daytona. The guys are running like it's a normal speedway. None of the pack drafting of the last decade or so.
 
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