Need a licence to have a radio on at work ! ?
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Yup, PRS - Performing rights society.
exactly
month ago i was stood in the booth watching 2manyDJs flick through there cd wallet... not one "real" cd in it. infact ive never seen anyone at all out of hundreds using original cds
thats why i called these people a joke. they know that the big name DJs/clubs would fight back at them so theyre picking on really small bars (who already have a license) and finding any flaw they can
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Every bar/club/gig venue you go to ALREADY pays the PRS for every event. All this kind of stuff happens behind the scenes so you never notice it. It's not about the DJs, but the venue or the promoter.
The only reason you would call the PRS a joke is if you actually had no idea about how the system works. They're actually there so the artists get paid for every public performance. They're there to help the artists, believe it or not!
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well the bar where threatened to have there license revoked because he was playing cd/r s
that IS a joke !
some guy in a suit literally came in and sat down with a notepad (looking might out of place at an underground techno night might i add) then him and the bars manager asked to look at DJs cd wallet. suprise suprise full of CD/Rs because thats all you can get... bar got shafted for it
that IS a joke !
some guy in a suit literally came in and sat down with a notepad (looking might out of place at an underground techno night might i add) then him and the bars manager asked to look at DJs cd wallet. suprise suprise full of CD/Rs because thats all you can get... bar got shafted for it
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thats the point of the PRS. it collects performance royalties for artists. If a radio station plays a song, the artist is due payment...same for TV etcetc. if you play the radio to people, you need a license.
the artist must be a member of the PRS, with its works registered. then the PRS acts as a royalty collection. same as its now partner MCPS. mechanical (printing of music) royalties.
At this time it's still technically illegal for anyone to even make copies of their own CDs [ridiculous but true]. So if a DJ has a wallet full of CDRs then there's no way to prove if they were pirated or not.
Whichever way you look at it, they were breaking the law and got punished accordingly.
That's hilarious. As lozza said, the whole point of the PRS is to give that money to the artists.
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i understand PRS stepping in and requiring a licence where music is being played, by dj's or whatever, but i dont understand the requirement for places that play a radio station, which itself will already be paying for each play of a song.
where i used to work we had in house radio which we were duly charged for on a basis of everywhere people can hear it judged on a sq ft measure for how much it cost, but here i sit in an office on my own or with one other guy, and i have radio one on
where i used to work we had in house radio which we were duly charged for on a basis of everywhere people can hear it judged on a sq ft measure for how much it cost, but here i sit in an office on my own or with one other guy, and i have radio one on
the artists whos cds he plays dont see a penny. fact
Fair enough. It's all to do with TLH [total listener hours]. If you have one person listening to the radio then that radio station sees one listener and pays the PRS according to the listener numbers. However, if you have ten people listening to one radio, the radio station still only sees one listener and it will actually pay less to the PRS than it should [through no fault of its own] and the artists get less money. Therefore for any radio which is played by a company to over a certain amount of people, the company must pay the PRS accordingly.
The DJ should keep a log of all the songs played, then give that list to the promoter or venue, which they will then pass on to the PRS. If this is not happening then the fault is not on the side of the PRS, but on the venue's.
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i understand this logic with regards online radio, but in terms of fm/dab all they have is listener figures to go off, considering they're quite vastly estimated how can they bring it down to a set by set issueyou dont get the point. he was playing tracks made by his mates to be shared amongst mates. they will never be released. they just get passed amongst each other. they dont get money and dont want money. so why did he get into trouble for playing them ?
Because it all works off Total Listener Hours. I'll be more specific.
1 person listening to the radio for 1 hour = 1 TLH
20 people listening to the radio for 1 hour = 20 TLHs
20 people listening to the radio for 20 hours = 400 TLHs
Therefore if you have 20 people listening to one radio it really screws up the TLHs and the artist will get paid less than they should. All a radio station can go on is the TLHs, so they have to be as accurate as possible.
The PRS need to be paid for the public performance of any copyrighted music. Copyright begins:
Now, if people pay to get into the venues where your friend DJs, then the money given to the PRS will be distributed to the artists. And why not? If people are paying, why shouldn't the money go to the artists! Remember the PRS is there to give money to the people who make the music. Not everyone understands copyright or royalty law, so when a man in a suit comes in demanding you pay the PRS, of course you're going to think he's a nonce, but he's there to make sure the artists get paid.
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The radio broadcasters would pay a blanket license, and anything that isn't scheduled to play, they'd pay for extra.
They have to submit 1 days worth of live broadcast to PRS, along with track listings, so they can find out if they've abused the blanket license e.g. they'd have played 12 Queen songs in 24hrs - bad.
They have to submit 1 days worth of live broadcast to PRS, along with track listings, so they can find out if they've abused the blanket license e.g. they'd have played 12 Queen songs in 24hrs - bad.