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Need advice about a Nvidia order

wsarahan

wsarahan

wsarahan

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Hi guys

So, i`ve bought the 2 GTX 680 with 4gb ecah to use at 2560x1440

But the store that i bought just received the GTX Titan oday at the same price that i've payed for my 680 SLI

What should i do? Stay with the 680 SLI 4gb or ask the store to send me the Titan instead?

Thanks
 
If you weren't sure before why did you go ahead?

What are you expecting from Titan vs 680 SLI?
 
humbug said:
If you weren't sure before why did you go ahead?

What are you expecting from Titan vs 680 SLI?
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I`m not expecting anything, i just want some advice as i have the oportunity to change the deal if the Titan will perform better for me at my rig, that`s my doubt, just it
 
wsarahan said:
I`m not expecting anything, i just want some advice as i have the oportunity to change the deal if the Titan will perform better for me at my rig, that`s my doubt, just it
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Far more often than not your GTX 680 SLI is faster
 
Gregster said:
What resolution do you game at? What is the rest of your system?

Give this thread a look to see what you can expect from a Titan and 680's in SLI. No biased, just honest fps shown.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18494571
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Nice review you did :)

So i saw you had the 680 SLI and high resolutions, so you are the right person to advice me what to do :D

Playing at 2560x1440 what would be your choice? Considering that i payed about 2000 dollars for 2 GTX 680 4gb each and a single titan costs here about 2200 dollars each?

Thanks again
 
wsarahan said:
Nice review you did :)

So i saw you had the 680 SLI and high resolutions, so you are the right person to advice me what to do :D

Playing at 2560x1440 what would be your choice? Considering that i payed about 2000 dollars for 2 GTX 680 4gb each and a single titan costs here about 2200 dollars each?

Thanks again
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Thanks.

I swapped out my 680's because they just couldn't cope at my resolution with every detail maxed out. With your resolution, 2*680's will be faster than a Titan and by a fair margin. If Titan was $400 cheaper, I would say get it but sadly the price it is makes it hard for me to justify recommending.

I can't advise what you should get being honest. You will be better off with two 680's at this present time but who knows what will happen with Titan drivers? Maybe in a month or two, Nvidia pull out a driver that seriously uses the full potential of a Titan?

The future is hard to see but as we stand now, go for the 680's or gamble on maturer drivers bringing fantastic gains across the board and get a Titan.

Sorry I can't be more specific :(
 
Gregster said:
Thanks.

I swapped out my 680's because they just couldn't cope at my resolution with every detail maxed out. With your resolution, 2*680's will be faster than a Titan and by a fair margin. If Titan was $400 cheaper, I would say get it but sadly the price it is makes it hard for me to justify recommending.

I can't advise what you should get being honest. You will be better off with two 680's at this present time but who knows what will happen with Titan drivers? Maybe in a month or two, Nvidia pull out a driver that seriously uses the full potential of a Titan?

The future is hard to see but as we stand now, go for the 680's or gamble on maturer drivers bringing fantastic gains across the board and get a Titan.

Sorry I can't be more specific :(
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Amazing explanation

But do you think drivers will continue improving 680 SLI as they probably improove the Titan performance?

And just one more question, at this resolution, 2560x1440 will i be able to play at least 6-fps with max settings games?

And about Overclock, 680 is a nice VGA to OC? I`ve never made an OC at VGA, is it worth? i just do OC at CPU, if you think worth can you recommend some guide of something like that?

Again really thanks
 
Gregster said:
The future is hard to see but as we stand now, go for the 680's or gamble on maturer drivers bringing fantastic gains across the board and get a Titan.
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Would you say that is likely? In the past has there ever been a significant improvement with newer drivers in cases where they weren't fixing a known performance issue?
 
wsarahan said:
Amazing explanation

But do you think drivers will continue improving 680 SLI as they probably improove the Titan performance?

And just one more question, at this resolution, 2560x1440 will i be able to play at least 6-fps with max settings games?

And about Overclock, 680 is a nice VGA to OC? I`ve never made an OC at VGA, is it worth? i just do OC at CPU, if you think worth can you recommend some guide of something like that?

Again really thanks
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Glad to help.

For sure, there is always a good chance the 680's will get improvements like AMD did with the introduction of the 12.11 drivers. Nvidia are very good with their hardware and I can see improvements across the board for all GPU's but I do expect the Titan to see the biggest improvements. How much of an improvement is anyone's guess :)

Overclocking is very easy and here is a guide which will work perfectly well with 680's as well as any other GPU.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18494374

Follow that guide and take your time and you will see nice improvements over stock clocks :) Very easy to overclock Nvidia cards but how much is chip dependant. Some clock easily to 1300Mhz and some struggle at 1100Mhz. Chip lottery as always :)

I expect you should get 60FPS in most games as a minimum but Crysis 3 will be the toughest to get. Turn down AA a little and no problems.

Festisio said:
Would you say that is likely? In the past has there ever been a significant improvement with newer drivers in cases where they weren't fixing a known performance issue?
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If you look back through driver history, you will always see massive improvements. The early drivers of the 6 series for example:

22% increase in fps in BF3 and then a few drivers later, we got another 28% increase in BF3. Not using the % as fact but it was about that and this is always the case with many of the newer games.

I say it is very likely to see maturer Titan drivers to see the biggest improvements.
 
Gregster said:
Glad to help.

For sure, there is always a good chance the 680's will get improvements like AMD did with the introduction of the 12.11 drivers. Nvidia are very good with their hardware and I can see improvements across the board for all GPU's but I do expect the Titan to see the biggest improvements. How much of an improvement is anyone's guess :)

Overclocking is very easy and here is a guide which will work perfectly well with 680's as well as any other GPU.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18494374

Follow that guide and take your time and you will see nice improvements over stock clocks :) Very easy to overclock Nvidia cards but how much is chip dependant. Some clock easily to 1300Mhz and some struggle at 1100Mhz. Chip lottery as always :)

I expect you should get 60FPS in most games as a minimum but Crysis 3 will be the toughest to get. Turn down AA a little and no problems.
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As my english is not so good (I`m from Brazil) the basics is to set a target and a Max temp reach? I mean for a easy OC, or any Oc will need to improve Voltages and all other stuffs?

I wanna a easy OC (i know that i`ll lose the max that i can reach, but anyway) Can you suggest, (if it`s a not a problem for you of course) a basic profile to start?

I mean, 106% and some temp reach, vcore.....

Thanks and sorry for boring you with this things, ii`m a little noob in this area and my english is poor to get everything
 
No probs and your English is far better than my Portuguese :)

When you get your 680's or Titan, I will help you with overclocking. Very easy but takes time to find your maximum stable overclock.

On my 680's (to use as a reference), I had both of mine at:

Power target - as far as the slider goes to the right
Core target +140
Memory target +400

And that was nice and stable in all games. I had the MSI Lightning 680's though and they were the best clockers of the 680's.
 
Gregster said:
No probs and your English is far better than my Portuguese :)

When you get your 680's or Titan, I will help you with overclocking. Very easy but takes time to find your maximum stable overclock.

On my 680's (to use as a reference), I had both of mine at:

Power target - as far as the slider goes to the right
Core target +140
Memory target +400

And that was nice and stable in all games. I had the MSI Lightning 680's though and they were the best clockers of the 680's.
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So at EVGA precison you did like this?

Power taget max

GPU clock you increased 140

Memory Clock you increased 400

did nothing with voltages and other stuffs?

Thanks
 
Gregster said:
Yep, just like that.

Most 680's don't allow any more voltages.
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Thanks

But trhere is a little diference in your EVGA precision and mine

Now i`m using the 580 SLi, untill my new boards arrive and my EVGA precicion Memory Clock and GPU clocks are not as offsets, they have a value instead, i mean, mine is like this now

GPU clock : 772 Mhz

Memory clock: 2004 mhz

And just one more question, how do i know that a OC is stable in a video card, i know some tests for CPUS, but not with videocards

Thanks again, and sorry for too many question, i know that i`k getting a boring guy
 
There will be differences between each GPU being used but the principle is the same for all GPU's.

For finding your stable OC, I suggest running Heaven 4.0 on extreme Preset (windowed) and when it completes the run 5 or 6 times, I go and play some heavy GPU games like BF3/Crysis 3 etc and if it crashes, I drop the core clock 10Mhz or if I see any black triangles or odd colours over the screen, I drop the memory 25Mhz.

Put the time into overclocking and you will be rewarded with a nice stable overclock but it isn't something that can be rushed.
 
Gregster said:
There will be differences between each GPU being used but the principle is the same for all GPU's.

For finding your stable OC, I suggest running Heaven 4.0 on extreme Preset (windowed) and when it completes the run 5 or 6 times, I go and play some heavy GPU games like BF3/Crysis 3 etc and if it crashes, I drop the core clock 10Mhz or if I see any black triangles or odd colours over the screen, I drop the memory 25Mhz.

Put the time into overclocking and you will be rewarded with a nice stable overclock but it isn't something that can be rushed.
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Thanks, noted

But why in your Precicion it shows offset and mine the clock? Is it the same? the more offset you put more clock you are raising?

Thanks
 
the only thing i would say about this is with a titan you would only have to power 1 gpu, and its a powerful one are you ever going to notice a difference in real world gaming? (besides generating less heat in your case + using less power(?))
 
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