shimy182 said:take him to a psycologist.
make him scared of his obesity.
show him facts about what fat can do to you.
take photos of him and show them to him.
theres a lot you can do. and watch out for half minded diet, the rebound is what you should be scared of.
Thought about that. but I think it would be better if a doctor did something similar, as I think a professional telling him in that kind of "hospital" enviroment, might have more of an effect on him.. its a good idea though, harsh but good, and i've got to face the fact that softly softly has gone far enough and it might be time to get down to earth about his future.