need fast build help

vapid

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Need to build or buy a PC have built a few in the past but was a while ago

this is one of the games i'm looking
at playing and the min spec

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/#/about/game_info

windows xp sp3
windows vista/7 32/64

intel core 2 duo 2 ghz
amd athelon xp 2 ghz

2 gb memory

geforce 9600 with 512 vram
ati radoen hd 2900 512 vram

1280 x 720

direct x 9.0c

budget for this build is 1k 1.5 max thinking that would be over the top
not looking to max out the budget but would like to max out bang for buck
be nice to have a pc to last a few years at least

i would go for stability over performance with scope to upgrade in the future
also need something thats wont sound like a helicoptor sitting in the room with me


just need this to play games on as i
have a few other PCs about for everything else
also anyone have any info on using a HDTV
instead of a monitor

looking to get this either ordered and
on way by tues or i can collect from shop tues/wens


any help would be awsome
looking at the ready built boxes on webiste as well so one of those may be a better idea for me
 
Welcome to the forum.

Something along these lines would be very good for ~ £1.1k + OS etc

Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 12800C9 1600MHz Triple Channel (KHX1600C9D3K3/6GX)
MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1)
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ)
Corsair HX 650W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-650HXUK)
Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3)
LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Silverstone SST-PS03B Precision Midi Tower Case - Black
 
thanks for the fast reply
will check out the parts

i had so far

XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
G.Skill RipJaw 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Triple Channel Kit
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard

still reading up on the memory
 
the MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
brings up a few was there one in particular that you meant
 
vapid said:
thanks for the fast reply
will check out the parts

i had so far

XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
G.Skill RipJaw 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C9 1333MHz Triple Channel Kit
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard

still reading up on the memory
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The HD 5870 is faster than the GTX460, although costs more so depends which way you want to go. You also have the GTX 480 to look at as well.

12GB of RAM is generally an overkill and 6GB is plenty. Put the money saved towards and SSD.

The mobo and CPU are fine.


vapid said:
the MSI GeForce GTX 460 Cyclone 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
brings up a few was there one in particular that you meant
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This is the one I meant: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-092-MS
 
Hi there, I gotta give a +1 to the i7 950 spec from greywolf- that will be a really nice system.

As an alternative, I put together an AMD Phenom II X4/5850 spec. It will not be quite as powerful, but offers better "bang for buck".

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I included an SSD as in games that do a lot of loading (MMOs) this will speed things up quite a bit, and will also make general windows use "snappier". The case is a nice and quiet model, with a fan controller for 3 fans - with the additional 140mm included in the spec that brings it up to 3 total. I chose motherboard and power supply so that you could add a second 5850 in crossfire at some point if you wanted.
 
Personally I wouldn't go with a 10k RPM HDD.

I would either get an SSD (as well as regular HDD of course), or just stick to a good 7200 RPM drive like the samsung F3's, and get an SSD in future.

Not saying either way is exactly wrong or right, but I would just personally rather save the money you propose to spend on a 10k RPM drive and put it towards an SSD.

Each to their own :cool:

(by the way I presumed you meant 10k RPM drive by '10k HD', but if not, then consider this fail. :D)
 
vapid said:
never used a SSD anything i need to know about them?
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Well basically they are the next generation of storage technology - they use solid state memory controlled by a controller chip to operate like a hard disk. However, unlike conventional hard disks (with rotating disks and read/write heads) there are no moving parts - this means that the latency inherent in hard disks is reduced considerably (hundreds of times). This also makes SSDs very good for random reading and writing - putting old hard drives to shame.

Until recently SSDs had these benefits, but were slower for continuois reads and (especially) writes. However, this has significantly changed in the last few years, so that most "mainstream" SSDs can continuoisly write and read more than twice as fast as conventional disk.

Right now, the only big drawbacks are price and capacity. SSD are only now becoming affordable in usable sizes. That OCZ vertex 2E 60GB I picked currently only costs £112 and performs amazingly fast. 60GB should be enough to install windows and a few of your main games and applications. Software installed on this device will load up very fast, hence if you are playing MMO games (where there is a lot of content and high freqency of loading) then an SSD will make the play experience much better. However, in other games with less loading the benefits of an SSD will be much smaller (they certainly don't give you more FPS or anything like that).

An SSD is certainly not a necessity - a good mechanical hard disk like the samsung F3 is more than sufficient for most applications (including gaming). However, if you do have the funds to try out an SSD - then you will not regret going for it, as your system will "feel" more responsive.
 
£1000+ for a build to outperform a 2ghz 775 dual and not one of you tells the op he's budgeting far beyond what the spec requires?

Nope. You suggest the fastest hyperthreaded quad core on the market. Brilliant.
 
JonJ678 said:
£1000+ for a build to outperform a 2ghz 775 dual and not one of you tells the op he's budgeting far beyond what the spec requires?

Nope. You suggest the fastest hyperthreaded quad core on the market. Brilliant.
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vapid said:
be nice to have a pc to last a few years at least
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If he wants a PC to last a few years from now and has the cash then why not? You will be seeing more USB 3 and SATA 6Gb/s stuff which he will miss with a 775 unless faffing with expansion cards.

Yes you could get a pc for under £500 that would run that game fine, but if he wants it to last some years then you might as well go all out. Otherwise he will just end up buying another pc sooner. So might as well go all out now and get something special.
 
I understand where you are coming from if just reading the OP. However, for FF14 at least that is just the minimum specs (enough to run it) quoted above, the recommended specs are here.

I for one am fairly sure it will run great at specs below this - but the systems specified above are not exactly extravagant for playing FF14, BF:BC2 or other modern games at high resolutions.
 
so as things stand at the min

XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
£281.99

Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1)
£239.99

Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz (Bloomfield) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
£217.36

Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard
£144.98

Kingston HyperX 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 12800C9 1600MHz Triple Channel (KHX1600C9D3K3/6GX)
£111.61

Corsair HX 650W ATX Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply (CMPSU-650HXUK)
£99.99

Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ)
£44.99

Silverstone SST-PS03B Precision Midi Tower Case - Black
£42.99

Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3)
£35.99

LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - Retail
£18.99

Total : £1,252.70 (with tax)


seems like a good setup but am i missing anything paste leads ect
not final still reading up on every part here and other sites.

also how does this compare to all the ready made boxes?

still need to read a lot more on the motherboard and graphics card
not 100% about SSD as well (new and scary)

thank you all for the help its more than very useful with the mountain of reading to do
 
if your talking about ready made boxes from pcworld then it would **** all over it
but if your talking about ocuks pre-built machines depend on which one you compare it to.
 
Jony27 said:
if your talking about ready made boxes from pcworld then it would **** all over it.
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i had a job interview with PC world in the PC sales kinda area, didnt go so well.


Jony27 said:
but if your talking about ocuks pre-built machines depend on which one you compare it to.
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not looked yet very steep learning curve so lots of reading to do
last system i made (for gaming) was back in the year before HL2 came out 2003/4 i think so been a few changes
 
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