need memory

dragos1977 · 17 Mar 2019 at 15:49

Can someone suggest some memory kit(16 Gb) for an Asus p8 z77-v deluxe paired with an i5-3570k cpu?
Thank you.

MaXxBoulton · 17 Mar 2019 at 19:17

buy the cheapest ram you can at 1600mhz+
Dont buy new, this stuff can be had for under £20 a stick if you get off brand for £11 a stick

i say this because ddr3 is dead, ddr4 will soon be on its way out, i would think in the next 2 gens of CPU. as intel and AMD start to fight the race to ddr5 will be important

Admetos · 18 Mar 2019 at 19:51

I'm very wary of second hand memory, so many people don't take any ESD precaution, an 8GB dimm has 500 million cells in it and it only takes one to be faulty. Faulty memory is often the cause of many random issues. I buy Kingson memory as it has the lowest returns, then take ESD precaution when fitting. You may think i'm OTT but i'm a software engineer who also writes neural net software, it's hard enough getting the software correct without introducing hardware issues also.

MaXxBoulton · 18 Mar 2019 at 19:58

ESD precaution is a thing of the 90's.

Admetos · 18 Mar 2019 at 20:06

Here is a Gigabyte factory video, I copied it at the point you can see the workers wearing electro static straps.
https://youtu.be/bR-DOeAm-PQ?t=84

How to properly handle Western Digital internal hard drives
https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=1486&lang=en

MaXxBoulton · 18 Mar 2019 at 21:42

Parts touched(lol) without an esd strap on.. hundreds or even thousands. Parts killed 0

I even made the last 2 pc's on a carpet

Admetos · 18 Mar 2019 at 22:00

MaXxBoulton said:
Parts touched(lol) without an esd strap on.. hundreds or even thousands. Parts killed 0

I even made the last 2 pc's on a carpet

Have you ever had a computer part fail or had any intermittent issues?

Finners · 18 Mar 2019 at 22:16

JasonM said:
I'm very wary of second hand memory, so many people don't take any ESD precaution, an 8GB dimm has 500 million cells in it and it only takes one to be faulty. Faulty memory is often the cause of many random issues. I buy Kingson memory as it has the lowest returns, then take ESD precaution when fitting. You may think i'm OTT but i'm a software engineer who also writes neural net software, it's hard enough getting the software correct without introducing hardware issues also.

You obviously take a stable system very seriously. Are memory calculation errors something that could cause problems with your software? may be worth while going down the ECC RAM route if so. That would involve switching to a Xeon processor though and support from your motherboard.

Admetos · 18 Mar 2019 at 22:42

Finners said:
You obviously take a stable system very seriously. Are memory calculation errors something that could cause problems with your software?

Computer stability is the most important thing for anyone, if a computer is not stable then what good is it. I've know about ESD damage since I was about 6 year old and use to build small electronics kits from IC's from Tandys.

Memory issues will effect even an office computer, but of course could give erroneous results when developing / testing neural network, those things are difficult enough without introducing any hardware issues.

MaXxBoulton · 19 Mar 2019 at 05:21

JasonM said:
Have you ever had a computer part fail or had any intermittent issues?

Honestly no.