Need perspective - show me your 50/55" setups (thanks).

[Plec]

Recently remodelled lounge - ripped out fireplace (cringe) so that entertainment system can take centre stage and integrated as subtly/tastefully as possible (kids won out).

Main decision is TV size and location - i.e. on wall or sat on unit. Room is usual rectangular space (17' 13') and TV will be positioned central along the longest wall.

Looking around showrooms wife and kids instantly want as big as possible (i've set a limit of 55") - but 'everything' looks manageable in a showroom. Since then i've mocked up a template on the wall and 55" looks f'ing huge!

So, I browsed at stock living room images with large TVs - but majority no sizes given so next to useless. But noticed that in situ, if given enough attention, they look less intrusive than i imagined (from pics) - even if they do essentially become pseudo partition wall.

*Crux - what would really help is if i had some examples/uploads of 50/55" setups in average living rooms - so that i can get some perspective as at the moment my freshly painted wall with 55" template stuck on it hasn't helped.

So any pics that you guys have of similar setups would be gratefully received.

TL;DR

• Need pics of 50/55" TVs in situ (i.e. panned back to show wall) to get an idea of size - any uploads appreciated.
• Thanks.
• *Additional - pics of TV units too if you have them - struggling with these too

 

[rhysduck]

This is my Panasonic GT60 50" tv with soundbar (Yamaha) on the wall.

To be honest I could easily have a 60/65" tv there and it wouldn't be too big.

Ignore my dauughters head!

 

[Martynt74]

This is 55" doesn't show it as well as it could, i'll look for better pics (55"). Think i'd go 65" next time.

Edit - Some older pics showing the full room

 

[Plec]

Excellent, thanks guys - much appreciated.

@rhysduck - loving the scoreline in that first pic! And how are you finding the sound bar (with discrete bass?)? This is something else i'm considering, as would like to simplify my set up - get rid of amp and room full of speakers as quality of format (soundbar) seems to have improved a lot (from general reading).

@Marvt74 - those speakers look like they have intent! Thanks for the different perspective shots of the room - really helped with getting a true reflection of size/impact (doesn't look too big at all). Can i ask where you got the unit from - is it solid wood?

 

[Martynt74]

Yes. They’ve been great. Only got them around Feb this year.

The unit is from Wayfair. It’s solid wood. Seems to be made the same as wooden worktops with lots of 6” blocks of wood stuck together to make a whole piece. I’m on my phone but if you search for my posts and wayfair it should pop up with a link as I’ve mentioned it before.

 

[Plec]

The unit is from Wayfair. It’s solid wood. Seems to be made the same as wooden worktops with lots of 6” blocks of wood stuck together to make a whole piece. I’m on my phone but if you search for my posts and wayfair it should pop up with a link as I’ve mentioned it before.

Thanks, @Marvt74 for the additional detail and link.

 

[rhysduck]

@rhysduck - loving the scoreline in that first pic! And how are you finding the sound bar (with discrete bass?)? This is something else i'm considering, as would like to simplify my set up - get rid of amp and room full of speakers as quality of format (soundbar) seems to have improved a lot (from general reading).

There's nothing discrete about the bass when it's turned up. For the money that Yamaha sound bar is brilliant!! It's the YSP-1600. I really, really, really wanted a full 5.1 surround sound but couldn't really justify ripping up everything for wires etc. The YSP-2700 is supposed to be the pinnacle of sound bars for the money (which has it's own wireless subwoofer)

 

[Plec]

There's nothing discrete about the bass when it's turned up. For the money that Yamaha sound bar is brilliant!! It's the YSP-1600. I really, really, really wanted a full 5.1 surround sound but couldn't really justify ripping up everything for wires etc. The YSP-2700 is supposed to be the pinnacle of sound bars for the money (which has it's own wireless subwoofer)

Thanks - listening to reviews as i type. I'm looking for separate speakers for music but the 2700 looks like it may give me time to look as it reviews well for music use too.

 

[hornetstinger]

Thanks - listening to reviews as i type. I'm looking for separate speakers for music but the 2700 looks like it may give me time to look as it reviews well for music use too.

Separates give you connectivity upgrade path, allow you to change avr as standards change or especially on hdmi spec, add more power if needed, better room correction etc.

Sound bars are pretty good parents ha e a q acoustics qtv2 good sound easy to use I would be happy with it but if able get separates.

 

[Puzzled]

This is 55" doesn't show it as well as it could, i'll look for better pics (55"). Think i'd go 65" next time.

How can you not have the unit centred to the tv, you monster

You'll quickly get use to the new size, same if you need to go smaller again (hurts for a while but you get over it).

How far away will you be sat from the screen?

 

[Martynt74]

Haha I did address that in the show us your pics thread!

Blame the mother in law who cleans. She never centres it!

 

[Plec]

Separates give you connectivity upgrade path, allow you to change avr as standards change or especially on hdmi spec, add more power if needed, better room correction etc.

Sound bars are pretty good parents ha e a q acoustics qtv2 good sound easy to use I would be happy with it but if able get separates.

Thanks @hornetstinger - the plan will be to get separates and streamline setup; something like a Dennon Dac - but i need to way more research on this...

How far away will you be sat from the screen?

On average, probably anything between 10 and 11 feet - depending how we're sat on the sofa and if TV is eventually mounted on the wall - undecided (room width is 13'). Watch mainly Netflix/Now TV/Prime and stream movies - kids watch a lot of YouTube content on there now as the interface has improved (nightmare - DanTDM haunts my dreams :/).

 

[hornetstinger]

Decide if you want a good budget system or want high end in the future, ie do you want pre outs for power amps later when you upgrade to more power hungry speakers, do you want cinema level output and sound that makes you feel a grenade has gone off right next to you.

I started off with Yamaha avr and Kef coda speakers, now have av separates and 3.5kW of RMS power all channels driven, and a pretty good medium to high end system.

I would look at q acoustics speakers with svs subs. Or if you want a better system get stereo speakers for now adding as you go along. Or get good budget 5.1 system say £1000 for speakers and sub keep that for few years and upgrade.

 

[hornetstinger]

Also don't dismiss second hand I got my 7.0 speakers 6.5 X less new price. So instead of a pretty low to midrange system I got a stonking upper end system.

Think about that even if they have minor cosmetic damage who cares.

 

[dowie]

Also don't dismiss second hand I got my 7.0 speakers 6.5 X less new price. So instead of a pretty low to midrange system I got a stonking upper end system.

^^^ that is true... it isn't like speakers or (power) amps have changed all that much over the years, high end speakers from years ago are still good now. Amplification has been sorted for years. You can always upgrade a pre-amp or AV receiver and/or add in some additional side/ceiling/(under floor next? ) when the next new dolby/THX/whatever standard comes out.

 

[hornetstinger]

^^^ that is true... it isn't like speakers or (power) amps have changed all that much over the years, high end speakers from years ago are still good now. Amplification has been sorted for years. You can always upgrade a pre-amp or AV receiver and/or add in some additional side/ceiling/(under floor next? ) when the next new dolby/THX/whatever standard comes out.

Except for class d amps they are improving and with a full 11 channel system having so many channels in class d makes sense.
I think getting ATI 6000 series is a bit too much...

 

[dowie]

What’s that based on out of interest?

 

[hornetstinger]

Class d amps are more efficient run cooler so having so many regular ab amps in avr is a massive compromise. However with class d get decent power and regular avr have more power 11 channels.

I think class d makes sense for ceiling channels maybe side and rears too so that's right channels. Get best for front three. Nad and ati are using newer class d amps.

 

[dowie]

I was more just asking for clarity on what you were saying, the previous post was potentially a bit ambiguous as it wasn't clear if you mean to say that amps are improving except for class D amps or that class D amps are the exception and are improving.

Obviously manufacturers do try to continually improve, certainly with regards to efficiency but there isn't really much to be done in terms of improvements to sound that could actually be perceived.

My point is more like some guy has say some separate amps from ABC Amplification etc.. Ltd in order to bi-amp his top of the range speakers from XYZ speaker company used at the front of his setup, he's got some big multi channel power amp for the rears etc.. (whatever.. he's spent some money finding some set up that he likes). He also has an AV pre-amp from ABC Amplification etc...

10 years later Dolby and others have new standards.. his pre-amp is out of date and doesn't support "Dolby Super UHD sound"... he's a bit gutted, his mate Brian has the new standard and the under the floorboard upwards facing speakers are great.... Well he probably only really needs to swap out the pre-amp and add in a couple of speakers. Any new power amp models form ABC Amplification etc.. Ltd, if level matched with the existing ones he has, won't likely make any perceptible difference. The XYZ speaker company's new range might be better, they might also be worse... or them might just be more or less the same thing but in a slightly different box.

 

[pepp77]

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