Need some advice please on SFF

matttrd

matttrd

matttrd

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Hi everyone first post on here so here goes. You all seem very knowledgeable and experienced in this area so decided to seek your advice on the following.

I have never owned or built a Shuttle before but due to relocation I need a much smaller case. I have built my own PCs over the years installed OS and updated drivers etc but my knowledge is really very basic. Therefore do you think that I would be ok with one of these.

The list below is what I currently have in a very large tower case and would like to put into a Shuttle case either SN26P or the SN27P2. The price of these two are about the same so the 27p2 seems to be the best choice as I can upgrade to the new AM2 cpu later. Think that's right.

4800 x 2 Athlon 64
Corsair 2048MB XMS PC3500LL PRO Dual Channel DDR
XFX GS6800 (no laughing) will change asap funds permitting
Western Digital Raptor Drive

Will all of the above fit in either Shuttle ok particularily worried about the memory?

Not interested in overclocking or SLi as it's all beyond me to be honest just want a reasonable setup that works. Will be ordering on here so advice appreciated.

Money is very tight at the moment as getting married this summer so saving hard. I know my spec isn't cutting edge but it is all I can afford at the moment.

Any advice appreciated.
 
Look at my sig...Am been using Corsair 2048MB XMS PC3500LL PRO Dual Channel DDR and a 150gb raptor in my sn26p for over a year now...
 
chaparral said:
Look at my sig...Am been using Corsair 2048MB XMS PC3500LL PRO Dual Channel DDR and a 150gb raptor in my sn26p for over a year now...
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Thanks for the info Chaparral, will it be alright in the SN27P2 case then?

And would I be better off getting the 27P2 case or do you recommend the 26 version instead?
 
matttrd said:
Thanks for the info Chaparral, will it be alright in the SN27P2 case then?

And would I be better off getting the 27P2 case or do you recommend the 26 version instead?
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No...the shuttle SN27p2 takes DDR2 memory and AMD AM2 CPU's.so it will not support your ddr1 memory or your 939 cpu..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-071-SH&groupid=43&catid=110&subcat=

Processor Support

- Socket AM2 supports
- AMD Athlon™ 64, Athlon™ 64 FX, Athlon™ 64 X2 and Sempron
- Single- and Dual-Core processors (Rev. F) with DDR2 interface
- 1 GHz system bus with 2000MT/s Hyper-Transport link

Memory Support

- 4 x 240 pin slots supports DDR2-800/667 memory modules
- max. 2 GB per DIMM up to a total size of 8 GB
- Dual Channel memory controller, supports unbuffered RAM


But do you really want to going paying out that much money on a shuttle (sn26p) that is classed as old tech now...

You be much better off selling your 4800 cpu and your DDR one memory and buying a shuttle SD37P2 with a Intel Core 2 DUO cpu and ddr2 memory http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-073-SH
 
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Yep, if you can afford it the SD37P2 or the new SD39P2 when it arrives is a definate performance boost.

Assuming your GFX card is PCIe then all you'd need is the CPU and RAM.
 
If the move to C2D is too pricey then consider the other Shuttle Socket 939 models available.

If you plan to stay with single slot graphics card, you could use a G chassis Shuttle, e.g. SN21G5. Just remember this chassis type isn't the quietest with a graphics card added, but you should be able to pick one up for sub £170.

If you can still find one, there is the SN25P that is the non-SLi sibling to the SN26P. Can house most dual slot graphics cards, but might require cutting the floppy drive cage for some cards.

Don't know what Biostar and AOpen have available.

Edit: Worth checking where the RAM is positioned in the SN21G5, incase LED's makes modules too tall.
 
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Ok thanks for all the info guys bit depressed now though. :mad:

Assumed the X2 in the SN27P's cpu support list was reffering to my AMD 4800X2 S939 1MB (2.4).

Ok then if I go for the SD37P2, which is the best value Cpu and ram for it then?

As have no idea about the newest iNtel Cpus and ram.

Thanks. ;)
 
Or just buy a matx mobo £50 + 400w Enermax Liberty 400W Modular SLI Compliant PSU £50 and a good matx case say for about £80 ( Highly recommend Anything from silverstone)

Cost £180 (Better temps , better upgrade path and no doubt better reliability than shuttle)
And what do shuttles cost these days .. 300 squid ? so thats £120 saved towards a nice new graphics card :)



/Hides from the shuttle boys :
 
OK i'm going to go with the SN26P and use what I already have, too much confusion otherwise.

So all I need now is some advice regarding a good GFX card that exhausts from the rear and will fit the case without causing any heat problems.

I assume the 8800 is a no go as I have seen someone with one fitted on here but has to leave the case open due to heat issues.

Advice appreciated. :)

I have seen one of these for £250 plus it exhausts from the rear.
512MB EVGA 7900GTX,EGS, PCI-E (x16), Mem 1600 MHz, GPU 650 MHz, 24 Pipes, HDTV 2 x Dual Link DVI-I

Any good for the SN26P?
 
In my opinion a 8800 GTS would be fine, I certainly wouldn't spend more than the price of a GTS on a 7 series. At the end of the day you can always try to work around heat issues, new coolers will arrive on the scene etc.

I would say choose between a Sapphire 1950 PRO as a budget option or a 8800 GTS for performance.
 
WoZZeR said:
In my opinion a 8800 GTS would be fine, I certainly wouldn't spend more than the price of a GTS on a 7 series. At the end of the day you can always try to work around heat issues, new coolers will arrive on the scene etc.

I would say choose between a Sapphire 1950 PRO as a budget option or a 8800 GTS for performance.
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Thanks mate you have been a great help, an EVGA 8800GTS it is then.
 
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