Neff Ovens

Conanius

Conanius

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Hi Everyone,

About to start work on our open plan downstairs - another thread will follow with lots of pictures :) - and as part of the work we are having a new kitchen.

All appliances will be Neff, and we are now down to Oven choice. There are two which we are deciding between, and fundamentally the difference is, one has a slide and hide door, and the other has pyrolitic cleaning.

I'm wondering if anyone here has either of these ovens, ideally if you have moved from a Neff 'normal door' to a Neff slide and hide door and can comment on whether you thought it was worth it.

We like the idea of slide and hide, but the ability to stop cleaning the oven seems pretty great too !

Thanks in advance
 
I chose the self cleaning oven over the slide and hide door. IMHO unless space is an issue the slide and hide is an unncessary luxury.
 
How good is this self cleaning stuff? My Dad's conservatory has so-called self-cleaning glass, it still gets filthy :p
 
It helps, certainly making it easier to clean anyway. Have has a Neff self cleaning oven since I got my kitchen done a year ago.
 
I have a slide & hide series 5 with catalytic, and a non-slide combo with pyrolytic.

The slide and hide is great. It means you can get big or heavy things out of the oven easily because you are not leaning over the door. Big things you are cooking just slide out on rails, and you can stand close to the oven easily to pick things up or turn things over. This is great if you are doing a roast or anything big. The slide & hide is pretty flash, and most people who see it really like it. It just makes the oven more usable by removing the door that's always in the way when it's open.

The oven itself doesn't need cleaning because it is catalytic, and should clean itself as you cook with it. It's worth noting that the catalytic plates are not on the floor of the oven so you may need to clean that by hand every so often, or keep a tray on the lower shelf to catch things.

The combo with the pyrolytic actually gets more dirty, as it doesn't clean as it cooks. It has a harder, glossy surface rather than the rough catalytic. You have a cleaning cycle that takes about 90 minutes and heats the oven up to 500 degrees and turns anything to ash. You still need to wipe the door first, as anything big that carbonizes on the glass can potentially crack it at 500 degrees. Once the oven is clean and cool, you then wipe out the ash, though it still can leave stains around the door seals where there isn't direct heat.

In short, I like them both, as they both have their uses. Having the slidey door doesn't mean you don't have a self-cleaning oven, just a catalytic instead of a pyrolytic. Hope that helps.
 
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That was exactly the reply I was looking for. Thank you :)

We're speccing the Pyrolytic oven with the telescopic rail kit, so we can still slide out the trays in the oven.

I guess we're being lazy and the Neff Microwave Oven Grill combination we are speccing is Pyrolytic also !
 
Django x2 said:
Id swap Neff for either Miele or DeDetrich, but if those are out of budget, catalyic slide and hide all day
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De Dietrich are garbage, oh, and they are in liquidation in the UK. I would never consider one over a BSH product.

Pyrolytic, not a big fan of them myself.

At the end of the day an oven is just a box with a few elements in, I would favour the door configuration that suits you over pyrolytic.
 
Slide and hide is pointless, it's just a gimmick.

Better off with self cleaning, they aren't perfect at cleaning themselves but they're good to keep in check.
 
Django x2 said:
Id swap Neff for either Miele or DeDetrich, but if those are out of budget, catalyic slide and hide all day
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I'd consider Miele, but the price differential over Neff isn't worth the minor quality uplift. Neff is a good strong standard above the rest of the market.

My washer is Miele, and that's simply because nothing else comes close for home laundry.
 
My parents had a Neff B46E74N3GB installed in their new kitchen a couple of weeks ago with the slide & hide door. Really does make getting stuff in and out easy without having to work around the door or worry about touching it, it's got a nice action to it and does most of the 'work' itself.

Despite not being pyrolytic it does still have a couple of cleaning modes that bring it up to temp to help the catalytic surface of the interior do its thing. Hard to say how effective that is so early though.
 
pitchfork said:
Slide and hide is pointless, it's just a gimmick.

Better off with self cleaning, they aren't perfect at cleaning themselves but they're good to keep in check.
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The slide and hide isn't pointless, it's one of the best features of the oven. I have both ovens mentioned here, an aqua assist with slide and hide and a pyro lyric combo.

The slide and hide makes every other oven (I also have the steam oven) so antiquated in terms of design. Incidentally I would highly recommend their aqua-assist ovens.
 
Muncher said:
The slide and hide isn't pointless, it's one of the best features of the oven. I have both ovens mentioned here, an aqua assist with slide and hide and a pyro lyric combo.

The slide and hide makes every other oven (I also have the steam oven) so antiquated in terms of design. Incidentally I would highly recommend their aqua-assist ovens.
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Never felt the need for slide and hide. What the hell do I need that space in front of the oven for while I've got the door open to put something in or take it out.

What benefit does it actually provide?

I actually prefer a side opening door on balance but they don't really seem to have them on commercial ovens.
 
pitchfork said:
Never felt the need for slide and hide. What the hell do I need that space in front of the oven for while I've got the door open to put something in or take it out.

What benefit does it actually provide?

I actually prefer a side opening door on balance but they don't really seem to have them on commercial ovens.
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It enables you to go further towards the oven face, so that if you are carrying something heavy it is much more convenient, lowering the potential of dropping a sodding great turkey.
 
The sliding door means you're not leaning over awkwardly to avoid a large plate of hot glass while you are in the oven, or that you've not got a hot side door trying to bounce back into your hands while you're taking something out like a roasting tin or tray that needs both hands in the oven.

If you've used one, they are very convenient. Probably not enough to give up the convenience of a self-cleaning, but as per my post above, you can have both.

I have (for instance) caught things on the door of my non-sliding combo oven, and caused a heck of a mess that wouldn't have happened if it had a slideaway door.

It's just an extra convenience, like power steering or climate control in a car - you don't need it, but it's sure nice to have.
 
All of these I've never even considered an issue.

Unless you've got midget arms why would you need to stand so close to put something in the oven?

And "Bounce back into your hands" the door falls to the floor and stays there until you close it?

I've never been putting something into the oven thinking "God I wish this door wasn't here, I can't climb into the oven with the turkey now"
 
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