Network setup advice

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 09:34

Hello.

Currently with vm and the sh2 running it in modem mode and the dlink exo 879 router.

I have ran a long ethernet cable up stairs to a netgear network switch which has a 2nd router installed as we get no wifi signal upstairs towards the rear of the house.

Now im confused on the next part as I believe I have to set the 2nd router to 192.168.2.1??? However I cannot access the routers settings as it only ever takes me to the dlink page regardless, even with the upstairs hard wired to the tp link ac router.
Does anyone have any suggestions or.tips on.how.best to setup the extended network please.

Fwiw with the setup exactly as it is the xbox one receives the double nat error and is unable to play any game whatsoever online.

Thanx in advance for any help

APM · 27 May 2018 at 10:14

When you're trying to access the 2nd router is it connected to your network or not?

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 10:34

APM said:
When you're trying to access the 2nd router is it connected to your network or not?

Yes, I have an ethernet cable.coming from the dlink router upstairs into the netgear network switch. From their the 2nd router is connected

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 10:38

Both routers have a different static IP right?

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 10:40

mrbell1984 said:
Both routers have a different static IP right?

No idea as I cant access the 2nd routers settings page as it keeps taking me to the dlink page instead.

Im wondering if It should have went sh2>network switch then added the 2 routers that way??? Not too good with networks whatsoever

SupraWez · 27 May 2018 at 10:42

If they are both default config you'll have duplicate addressing and dual dhcp servers, configure the 2nd router by only connecting to it in isolation, disable dhcp and give it a different address, you'll be using it as just an AP and switch.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 10:46

SupraWez said:
If they are both default config you'll have duplicate addressing and dual dhcp servers, configure the 2nd router by only connecting to it in isolation, disable dhcp and give it a different address, you'll be using it as just an AP and switch.

Can it be accessed if its connected.via ethernet to my main pc with no internet connection at all???

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 10:55

carsyboy said:
No idea as I cant access the 2nd routers settings page as it keeps taking me to the dlink page instead.

Im wondering if It should have went sh2>network switch then added the 2 routers that way??? Not too good with networks whatsoever

You configure the devices before connecting them. Sounds like there is an IP conflict.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 11:01

mrbell1984 said:
You configure the devices before connecting them. Sounds like there is an IP conflict.

On the tp link what settings should I be changing please.

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 11:02

carsyboy said:
On the tp link what settings should I be changing please.

IP addresses has to be unique to each device. That's how networks work.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 11:58

mrbell1984 said:
IP addresses has to be unique to each device. That's how networks work.

so it doesnt matter what static ip address i input?? how does the mac address work as i need one as well??

as soon as i disable the dhcp the modem is unusable for internet connection. totally puzzled now

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 12:03

1) Go into your first router settings and post a screenshot here of what your ip settings are.
2) Only connect 1 PC to the second router and then also post a screenshot of the ip settings of the router 2.

Running 2 routers is just wrong, one of them should be an access point really. OR run power lines. This would help your issue massively.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 12:12

hopefully these work

main router

2nd router

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 12:15

mrbell1984 said:
1) Go into your first router settings and post a screenshot here of what your ip settings are.
2) Only connect 1 PC to the second router and then also post a screenshot of the ip settings of the router 2.

Running 2 routers is just wrong, one of them should be an access point really. OR run power lines. This would help your issue massively.

running powerlines is not an option as its an old house with split circuits i believe. when i plug a powerline in downstairs it runs great move it upstairs and no signal and vice versa

also i only need toe 2nd router to provide a wifi signal upstairs and nothing else

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 12:18

carsyboy said:
running powerlines is not an option as its an old house with split circuits i believe. when i plug a powerline in downstairs it runs great move it upstairs and no signal and vice versa

also i only need toe 2nd router to provide a wifi signal upstairs and nothing else

Then this is where an access point comes into play. As I said it sounds like an ip conflict and ALL devices need to be unique.

There is your problem right there! Same IP address. Give the second one 192.168.0.2. Then reboot both routers and systems. You should be good to go there. Just use each IP address to access the routers page.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 12:20

mrbell1984 said:
Then this is where an access point comes into play. As I said it sounds like an ip conflict and ALL devices need to be unique.

ah ok so its not possible to add a 2nd router to a network?? i was told it was hence why ive been trying for a few days to get this running :confused:

Deleted member 77746 · 27 May 2018 at 12:24

carsyboy said:
ah ok so its not possible to add a 2nd router to a network?? i was told it was hence why ive been trying for a few days to get this running

Yes it's possibly but routers are too route traffic once they are configured correctly. This is why you are getting a double NAT error for the XBOX.

https://www.ligowave.com/difference-between-access-point-and-router

bremen1874 · 27 May 2018 at 12:38

If you're adding a second router to act as an access point it needs to be connected to the rest of the network using one of its LAN ports. The WAN port won't be connected to anything.

carsyboy · 27 May 2018 at 12:51

bremen1874 said:
If you're adding a second router to act as an access point it needs to be connected to the rest of the network using one of its LAN ports. The WAN port won't be connected to anything.

yeah thats the way i have it atm. everywhere ive read says the 2nd router shoud be set as 192.168.2.1 however both routers will not allow me to do that whatsoever

bremen1874 · 27 May 2018 at 12:53

The IP you set on the second router will depend on the IP and DHCP range set on the first router. You can't just arbitrarily use 192.168.2.1.