Network setup advice

carsyboy said:
yeah thats the way i have it atm. everywhere ive read says the 2nd router shoud be set as 192.168.2.1 however both routers will not allow me to do that whatsoever
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That IP address is an example, it varies between networks as every network is different. I have a 10.0.1.0 network just because that's what I like working with but the IP's MUST be unique.

You should also only have one DHCP server on the network otherwise there will be problems.
 
mrbell1984 said:
That IP address is an example, it varies between networks as every network is different. I have a 10.0.1.0 network just because that's what I like working with but the IP's MUST be unique.

You should also only have one DHCP server on the network otherwise there will be problems.
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yeah i have disabled dhcp and nat on the 2nd router. thing is all the mobile phones and firestick connect to the 2nd router perfectly fine with great wifi access. yet come to the xbox one which is mainly what its needed for and it throws up numerous errors like dns is not resolving xbox server names etc. puzzles me completely as networking is not my thing
 
carsyboy said:
yeah i have disabled dhcp and nat on the 2nd router. thing is all the mobile phones and firestick connect to the 2nd router perfectly fine with great wifi access. yet come to the xbox one which is mainly what its needed for and it throws up numerous errors like dns is not resolving xbox server names etc. puzzles me completely as networking is not my thing
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Two routers isn't the best way to network. It's always been a hack. They weren't built for this scenario.
 
In this scenario the difference between a wireless router configured as an AP and a real AP is marginal (assuming you know how to do the necessary config).

It usually goes like this:-
  1. Find the IP address and DHCP range of the existing router (e.g. 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.200).
  2. Leave the new router disconnected from the existing network and connect a single PC to it (best to factory reset it first).
  3. Reconfigure the new router (in this case IP to 192.168.0.2 and DHCP off).
  4. Save the new settings and reboot the router (at this point the PC will loose its connection).
  5. Connect the new router to the network LAN-to-LAN (ignore the WAN port).
  6. Connect the PC back to the network and reboot it.
  7. Both routers should now be accessible (one on 192.168.0.1 and the other on 192.168.0.2).
  8. Configure the wireless to suit your needs.
 
Thnx for all the advice guys but I think I may need to give this a miss and tell the children that theu cannot access xbox live.

Ive been at this sunce monday morning and followed numerous guides to the letter. Reset the routers numerous times. The best I can get is everything to access the network bar the xbox one and its starting to irritate me now
 
mrbell1984 said:
Only if money is a big issue. The real way is proper access points as you can have one in each room if you really wanted too without any issues at all...

Internet > Router > As many AP's as you like...
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Money is the main issue as its hard finding the sort of money the AP cost, especially with being a single parent
 
bremen1874 said:
How's the xbox connected? If you're using wireless now could you use a cable instead?
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Its not really an option either. It was initially connected via ethernet however the 2 younget children kept pulling the cable resulting in my oldest son tripping on the cable and going head first down the stairs breaking his right arm and fracturing his left wrist hence tring to get wifi working
 
Disconnect the 2nd router from the network then see if you can log in,if you can disable DHCP.
 
APM said:
Disconnect the 2nd router from the network then see if you can log in,if you can disable DHCP.
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Dhcp and nat are both disabled on the 2nd router. With the 2nd router disconnected everything works fine. With the 2nd router connected everything works fine and the phone's and firestick connect fine its just the xbox one that throws up errors about dns and xbox cant resolve the issues
 
I have 4 routers running in my house to provide wireless all over.

1 - Sky Hub - connected to telephone line and provides wifi to living room and kitchen - 192.168.250.1
2 - C50 - cabled to 1 (via switches and structured cabling) - provides wifi solely to main TV - 192.168.250.252
3 - Some Trendnet thing - cabled to 1 (via switches and structured cabling) - provides wifi to bedrooms - 192.168.250.254
4 - An old Wireless N device that is in the loft - cabled to 3 (via structured cabling) - adds coverage to the bathroom lol - basically was using it as a switch and just decided to leave the wifi on - 192.168.250.253

DHCP is turned off on all but number 1.
 
This would work.

First router
192.168.0.1
255.255.255.0
DHCP range - 192.168.0.100-200


Second router
192.168.0.2
255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS 192.168.0.1
DHCP disabled


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To configure the second router, I would connect a laptop or PC directly to it (no other cables), go to the config page (probably 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1)

Then..

Step one
disable DHCP

Now set a static IP on your laptop of 192.168.0.3 (assuming the IP of the device is 192.168.0.1)

Check that you can ping the IP of the second router (192.168.0.1) -whilst still directly connected to it.

Now set the IP of that second router to 192.168.0.2, wait for it to restart (if it does), then ping that IP from the laptop.
Set the DNS and gateway as my suggested settings above.

Disconnect the laptop and remove the static IP from the laptop.

Connect the second router up to the first using a switch port (not WAN port on router), then see if you can ping both routers when connecting the laptop up to both of them (using auto-IP assignment on the laptop)
 
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