Neuralink - demo with a paralysed person.

Elon did tweet a rather interesting thought about it's possibility.


I'll take some cybernetic "enhancements" ;) x ray vision would be cool also.
That is going to be a very long way off.:)

And there are already devices available/in development that can allow that sort of thing to a degree without the need to do brain surgery, as they work by monitoring the nerve/muscle signals nearer the lost limb rather than trying to pick up which signals are which from all the activity in the brain (which makes for a much simpler system/easier to maintain, and less likely to kill you during the installation).

As several others have said, he's basically taken the ideas that were already being looked at and gone for the most invasive option (his brain chip isn't even the first time that's been done*), as most of the other trials/systems were being done to keep the risk of damage to the patient to the minimum, and if you start mucking around with implanted chips you run into the issue that has been common for joint replacements, namely as time goes on you need to replace the implant and every time you do the surgery to do so you the damage accumulates and it becomes harder to use a newer version (no matter how great your tech is, you end up with scar tissue/tissue damage and that builds up with every op, one of the reasons second/third joint replacements are usually more complicated than the first one).

It's impressive, but not actually a new idea and so far he appears to be at the point that was being done non invasively years ago.


*IIRC the other "brain chips" however were done for things that absolutely needed direct access to the brain for things like reducing the symptoms of Parkinson's and to help control certain types of epilepsy (IIRC there is a type where a very small current to the correct part of the brain can stop a life threatening seizure but the op for the chip is itself risky).
 
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and next years cars will be driving themselves, repeat once per year, for 10 years.


cybernetic limbs that are anywhere near as good as a humans surely won't be around for decades yet, and other robotic versions are already around.

Only a tiny percent of people should warrant risky brain implants, but it seems elon is one day hoping it becomes the new iphone
 
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and next years cars will be driving themselves, repeat once per year, for 10 years.


cybernetic limbs that are anywhere near as good as a humans surely won't be around for decades yet, and other robotic versions are already around.

Only a tiny percent of people should warrant risky brain implants, but it seems elon is one day hoping it becomes the new iphone

So basically by the time I retire I may be able to purchase a new body, I'm alright with that.
 
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So basically by the time I retire I may be able to purchase a new body, I'm alright with that.
Whos the comedian who did the joke about people living to 150 soon, but most the people above 75 will have Alzheimer's so it will be like the walking dead.
 
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Sounds like Neuralink isn't very useful for long periods either given the battery needs to charge
I tried one of the older ones, literally got bored of it not doing what I wanted within 5 minutes. It was "kind of cool" to see a cursor moving "by the power of my mind" but it was so janky I lost interest within minutes. There's no way you could actually play a whole game with it.
 
Whos the comedian who did the joke about people living to 150 soon, but most the people above 75 will have Alzheimer's so it will be like the walking dead.

I'm hoping for the day we can make artifical organs that the body doesn't reject, then people can live very long - your heart/kidney/liver giving out? Just get a new one that will last another 100 years. The problem as you say is the brain, the brain will age even if the organs are replaced with new ones and you'll just have a bunch of vegetables watching paint dry
 
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I'm hoping for the day we can make artifical organs that the body doesn't reject, then people can live very long - your heart/kidney/liver giving out? Just get a new one that will last another 100 years. The problem as you say is the brain, the brain will age even if the organs are replaced with new ones and you'll just have a bunch of vegetables watching paint dry
IIRC they've just done the first GM modified pigs liver.

They've been ding pig heart valves for decades.
 
I already did with time stamp

DM even has an article about it but they go back even further

That's like trying to poo-poo the launch of the iPhone with an example of a 90s palm pilot having a touch screen or dunking on Tesla by showing an electric milk float from the 80s or some earlier electric car. It's a superficial comparison that completely glosses over the innovation present.

That stuff required a lot more surgery for way fewer connections and needed to be anchored with external equipment on the skull; it is hardly comparable in terms of connections and bandwidth, and importantly that has implications beyond controlling a mouse on a screen:

Although significant technological challenges must be addressed before a high-bandwidth device is suitable for clinical application, with such a device, it is plausible to imagine that a patient with spinal cord injury could dexterously control a digital mouse and keyboard. When combined with rapidly improving spinal stimulation techniques [42], in the future, this approach could conceivably restore motor function. High-bandwidth neural interfaces should enable a variety of novel therapeutic possibilities.
 
That stuff required a lot more surgery for way fewer connections and needed to be anchored with external equipment on the skull; it is hardly comparable in terms of connections and bandwidth, and importantly that has implications beyond controlling a mouse on a screen:
you realise what year they were done in?

Elon never invented anything as always but the brainless go along with it
 
Isn't it mad that there may be a point where you could technically live forever, and there will be a generation that just miss that time. Imagine like 1 year after you die it comes out. Lol
 
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Isn't it mad that there may be a point where you could technically live forever, and there will be a generation that just miss that time. Imagine like 1 year after you did it comes out. Lol

Quite possibly people in adulthood today might be among the groups that miss out. Of course, there's also the issue that as that sort of life extension tech is rolled out there will be winners and losers within a given generation/cohort too.
 
Quite possibly people in adulthood today might be among the groups that miss out. Of course, there's also the issue that as that sort of life extension tech is rolled out there will be winners and losers within a given generation/cohort too.
Yep, I'm quite sure Elon Musk will be the first to do some sort of life extension. Although he may be slightly too old.. maybe zuckerberg
 
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I had an OCZ Nia Neural impulse actuator back in 2008/2009. It was extremely difficult to setup and get it trained. Frustratingly slow because for long periods of times it felt like nothing was happening. It was also a complex process setting it up for use with each game. OCZ had profiles for some games which saved a bit of time. However, after a couple of months it started to click and I could use it pretty well. It worked really good in games that OCZ did profiles for. Half Life 2 and Counter Strike Source. Could walk around a map duck, dodge, shoot, the whole works.

Outside of the very complex and frustrating setup process, the main problem with it was that it was extremely difficult to control your reactions, facial movements etc. You couldn't talk to teammates in Counter Strike, for example, or else it would do something unexpected in the game. No eating or drinking while gaming either. You had to be completely zen in both mind and facial expressions to use it properly.

I am mentioning this because I am surprised it took this long to get from the likes of the OCZ device to the Neuralink mentioned in the opening post. The addition of an implant must be what it gives it the fine control so that you don't have to be so completely focused on the one thing.

With implants like this, I am guessing sight and hearing loss will soon be things of the past for those that can afford it? Will implants like this solve things like Dementia and Alzheimer's?

Interesting times.
 
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