New 4870, I can hear windows load but nothing on screen...

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 13:32

I just installed my 4870, from an 8800GT. I uninstalled all the drivers and ran Driver Sweeper and Driver Cleaner as well as CCleaner but when I boot with the 4870, the fan stays on max all the time and the screen stays in standby mode.

The strange things is, the PC is booting and I can hear the Vista loading sound.

I hope this isn't a dead card

Any ideas?

spookywillow · 16 Jul 2008 at 13:58

i take it your connecting via a dvi cable? if so use a vga cable.

this happened to me a while back with my x1950pro and i have never got it to work over dvi since and thats with an hd3870 - x800xt and now a hd4850.

its a conflict or similar with EDID on the monitor.

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:06

I tried it via VGA and still have the same problem. Fan on the card stays on 100%, I hear the Vista load sound play but the screen says either no cable attached or stays in standby mode.

The monitor is a Dell 2001WFP.

spookywillow · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:07

does it run without drivers installed? or in safe mode even ?

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:10

Currently no drivers are installed and I did not try going into safe mode as I can't see anything on the screen to choose to start in safe mode.

spookywillow · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:12

have you tried reseating the card? i thought you already had drivers installed

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:14

spookywillow said:
have you tried reseating the card? i thought you already had drivers installed

I had an 8800gt before and uninstalled all the drivers and cleaned with driver sweeper.

I have tried the card twice and in between put my 8800gt back in to perform some more driver cleaning.

spookywillow · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:16

and all power connectors are fitted right? silly questions i know but you never know lol

if that doesn't work then its not looking too good tbh.

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:21

spookywillow said:
and all power connectors are fitted right? silly questions i know but you never know lol

if that doesn't work then its not looking too good tbh.

Yes everything is plugged in correctly, x2 6 pin power connectors are plugged in to the card, 1 from the PSU and 1 from a molex to 6 pin convertor that came with the card.

Bito · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:27

Do a search for 'DVI Recover'....make a boot CD and run it.
It will reset the DVI port and all will be fine

Jakus · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:29

Driver issue, card works until windows boot screen when it's loading drivers, as Your asking the question I would think for You the easiest fix would be overinstall the operating System(and select repair)

If You keep files on the windows partition You would be well advised to put the old card in and back them up

chaosophy · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:32

If you're not even seeing the BIOS post then you can count out everything past that, basically windows, drivers etc.

Try..

different cables, dvi, vga. sounds like you have.

different ports. both on the card and the monitor. if you have a TV and the right leads even try the TV out dongle over svhs/component.

check you monitor settings. auto adjust, rescan, anything to do with inputs refresh rates etc.

different monitor.

put your old card back in and check BIOS settings. can't think of anything off hand in bios that might do this but try resetting anything you might think of back to defaults.

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:33

JAKUS said:
Driver issue, card works until windows boot screen when it's loading drivers, as Your asking the question I would think for You the easiest fix would be overinstall the operating System(and select repair)

If You keep files on the windows partition You would be well advised to put the old card in and back them up

But the card doesn't work thats the thing, right from pressing the power button, nothing displays on the screen, it stays in standby mode and only reason I can tell that windows has loaded to the login screen is that I can hear the sound that Vista makes but there is still nothing on the screen.

Mr Footlong · 16 Jul 2008 at 14:34

JAKUS said:
Driver issue, card works until windows boot screen when it's loading drivers, as Your asking the question I would think for You the easiest fix would be overinstall the operating System(and select repair)

If You keep files on the windows partition You would be well advised to put the old card in and back them up

It isn't a driver issue when the screen stays in standby and he can't even get the F8 boot options to show up on the screen, as he has said........

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 15:29

So it seems I have fixed the problem. I removed the Ageia drivers and also increase the PCI-E voltage buy 0.1V and I can now boot into windows.

I installed the hotfix drivers but I'm still experiencing some strange issues.

Vista now has a superfetch problem and superfetch is forced to close.
Also the aero glass feature doesn't work all the time.

Mr Footlong · 16 Jul 2008 at 15:40

What power supply are you running and what other components? I cannot remember the last time I ever had to alter the PCI-E voltage on a board to get a vga card to fire up and I have have ploughed my way through a fair few over the years.

Final8y · 16 Jul 2008 at 15:41

sanofi said:
So it seems I have fixed the problem. I removed the Ageia drivers and also increase the PCI-E voltage buy 0.1V and I can now boot into windows.

I installed the hotfix drivers but I'm still experiencing some strange issues.

Vista now has a superfetch problem and superfetch is forced to close.
Also the aero glass feature doesn't work all the time.

A bad cpu or memory overclock can do exactly as i discovered for the first time yesterday while benching.

Have you overclocked anything ?

sanofi · 16 Jul 2008 at 17:00

Final8y said:
A bad cpu or memory overclock can do exactly as i discovered for the first time yesterday while benching.

Have you overclocked anything ?

I am using the Hiper 580w Type R.

My 8200c2d is overclocked to 3.36Ghz.

I also changed the second 6 pin pci-e power connector, I switched from the molex to 6 pin that came with the 4870 to a x2 molex to 6 pin that came with my old 8800gt.

Final8y · 16 Jul 2008 at 17:12

sanofi said:
I am using the Hiper 580w Type R.

My 8200c2d is overclocked to 3.36Ghz.

I also changed the second 6 pin pci-e power connector, I switched from the molex to 6 pin that came with the 4870 to a x2 molex to 6 pin that came with my old 8800gt.

Try setting everything to stock speeds & see what its like for a day or so.

RobertN · 16 Jul 2008 at 17:38

maybethe psu you are pushing your luck with the hiper as i had the 580w non modular on a old 7900gs sli system and it was borderline lots of heat and stutters

i would look into a more modern psu with two dedicated 6 pin connectors and about 50a on the 12v rail not 30a like the hiper