New 55" tv time.

Flibster · 8 Nov 2022 at 16:51

Been looking at TV's for the lounge to replace the (we think, 14 year old) Panasonic Plasma in there. When we sized the room out, we left space to upgrade to a 60" screen when time came to upgrade, so naturally they don't make good 60" screens anymore. So 55" it is. :rolleyes:

Spent a while at the weekend just scoping what was likely to be the main contenders. Was primarily thinking the Samsung S95B would be the obvious choice, with the Sony somethingorother in there for around the same price. Certainly not the A95K as it's a grand more expensive. And there's been a surprise.

As lovely as the Samsung S95B is, and it really is, I'm leaning towards the Panasonic LZ1000. :confused:

Slightly cheaper, Master OLED panel, supports all HDR formats, don't care that it's considered a 'thick screen' as it's going to be wall mounted anyway, inbuilt speakers being parp doesn't matter either as the amp and 5.1 setup is always used too.

Am I losing my mind?

Haze · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:12

I'm looking at getting a Hisense next month

robj20 · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:18

I've got my eye on a 65" Samsung S95B so will be keeping an eye out for that on sale.

hyperseven · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:33

robj20 said:
I've got my eye on a 65" Samsung S95B so will be keeping an eye out for that on sale.

Samsung, last time I looked, did not support Dolby vision which is baffling considering that seems to be the standard for dynamic HDR :confused:

Cryfreeman · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:37

£450 off the LZ1000 at the moment, great deal at £1099 with 5 years guarantee

Flibster · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:46

hyperseven said:
Samsung, last time I looked, did not support Dolby vision which is baffling considering that seems to be the standard for dynamic HDR

Correct. It doesn't.

Sony doesn't support HDR10+

If you want all the support its Phillips or Panasonic iirc.

Cryfreeman said:
£450 off the LZ1000 at the moment, great deal at £1099 with 5 years guarantee

That's kind of what I was thinking. The LZ1500 is another £600 on top, and really doesn't seem worth it.

Although getting the 55" S95B get's me a £500 Samsung soundbar for free. That'd be the parents christmas present sorted with zero effort.

Cryfreeman · 8 Nov 2022 at 17:57

I have the previous JZ1000, fantastic out the box picture and a bit more lax than other brands on dimming the picture, in fact I haven’t noticed any dimming yet

robj20 · 8 Nov 2022 at 18:10

hyperseven said:
Samsung, last time I looked, did not support Dolby vision which is baffling considering that seems to be the standard for dynamic HDR

Its fine it supports HDR10+

Simmz · 8 Nov 2022 at 18:34

Flibster said:
Been looking at TV's for the lounge to replace the (we think, 14 year old) Panasonic Plasma in there. When we sized the room out, we left space to upgrade to a 60" screen when time came to upgrade, so naturally they don't make good 60" screens anymore. So 55" it is.

Spent a while at the weekend just scoping what was likely to be the main contenders. Was primarily thinking the Samsung S95B would be the obvious choice, with the Sony somethingorother in there for around the same price. Certainly not the A95K as it's a grand more expensive. And there's been a surprise.

As lovely as the Samsung S95B is, and it really is, I'm leaning towards the Panasonic LZ1000.

Slightly cheaper, Master OLED panel, supports all HDR formats, don't care that it's considered a 'thick screen' as it's going to be wall mounted anyway, inbuilt speakers being parp doesn't matter either as the amp and 5.1 setup is always used too.

Am I losing my mind?

What's the budget ?

hyperseven · 8 Nov 2022 at 18:37

robj20 said:
Its fine it supports HDR10+

Don't the majority of streaming services and physical media use Dolby Vision over HDR10+ is the dynamic metadata interchangeable? I thought HDR10+ was like the Betamax of dynamic HDR

Simmz · 8 Nov 2022 at 18:42

Can do ya that directly from Panasonic if you like with 5 year warranty.

Cryfreeman · 8 Nov 2022 at 19:06

Bargain !

Flibster · 8 Nov 2022 at 19:15

Simmz said:
What's the budget ?

Around £1k

This is slightly over that. £1100 iirc.

Simmz said:
Can do ya that directly from Panasonic if you like with 5 year warranty.

Apparently the LZ980 doesn't have the Master OLED panel, the LZ1000 does. And they're exactly the same price at John Lewis.

Cadder · 19 Nov 2022 at 09:21

@Flibster have you settled on a TV yet or are you waiting on deals?

aoaaron · 19 Nov 2022 at 11:27

hyperseven said:
Don't the majority of streaming services and physical media use Dolby Vision over HDR10+ is the dynamic metadata interchangeable? I thought HDR10+ was like the Betamax of dynamic HDR

Yes. I'd take DV over HDR10+ support any day.

Dolby won the format war.

aoaaron · 19 Nov 2022 at 11:29

robj20 said:
Its fine it supports HDR10+

So? It doesn't support Dolby Vision and nearly everyone has used Dolby Vision and have ditched HDR10+ apart from, as far as I remember, Amazon Prime.

I'd take DV support over HDR10+ any day.

The Samsung also has an anti reflective coating which is really good but makes the blacks in a well lit room look slightly lifted compared to the LG/Sonys. However the LG Sonys have worse reflective coating so pick your poison. I prefer jet black personally.

Flibster · 19 Nov 2022 at 12:00

Cadder said:
@Flibster have you settled on a TV yet or are you waiting on deals?

Going to be looking at tvs again on monday. Other half coming with me too. Going to try to persuade her on the 65"....

Still leaning towards the Panasonic. Samsungs lack of Dolby Vision is pretty much ruling that one out. Sony being a grand more is just silly. Not looked much at the LG sets so will do that.

Cadder · 19 Nov 2022 at 12:43

I'll be watching this thread then, I'm fancying a replacement for our 50" Sony Bravia KDL50W8 LED HD 1080p TV...

robj20 · 21 Nov 2022 at 04:43

aoaaron said:
So? It doesn't support Dolby Vision and nearly everyone has used Dolby Vision and have ditched HDR10+ apart from, as far as I remember, Amazon Prime.

I'd take DV support over HDR10+ any day.

The Samsung also has an anti reflective coating which is really good but makes the blacks in a well lit room look slightly lifted compared to the LG/Sonys. However the LG Sonys have worse reflective coating so pick your poison. I prefer jet black personally.

Good job my main source is Amazon Prime then, abs as far as I understand if it doesn't support HDR10+ and the TV doesn't do DV it will fall back to HDR10.
I'm not really a purist so I think the S95B should be fine.

Yes in an ideal world it would be nice if it had DV but the A95K is over £1k more and itself has downsides.

thebandit · 21 Nov 2022 at 07:30

The LG CS 55inch is £830 at BOX, if you cal Richer sounds they wil beat it and then you get their 6 year warranty (CS is a C1 panel with all new C2 electronics)