New Build, £2000 budget.

swap the 590 for two 580s, cheaper/quiter/cooler :)
drop the WD Black and get a Samsung F3 or F4
for gaming, i5 2500k is the best chip out atm.
 
I'd swap out the 2600K for the 2500K. No need for it for gaming. You'll only see performance difference in multi threaded encoding/compiling tasks.
 
The WD is bundled with Win 7 so he can't really change that ??

If he's got the money then he might as well get the i7, I'm sure games soon will be using the hyperthreading in the i7 no?
 
I can't see games using hyperthreading for a long long time. I'll wager that by the time they do, we will all have changed our CPU's at least 3 times :p
 
The WD isnt bundled with WIN7 on my build, it was on an earlier build.
See, now I'm getting confused cause I was originally going for sli 580's but was advised to by one 590 instead as it is the highest end card and will run anything.

I have a good job, so was thinking maybe sli the 590 in 2-3 months time?
 
Dogtaguk said:
The WD isnt bundled with WIN7 on my build, it was on an earlier build.
See, now I'm getting confused cause I was originally going for sli 580's but was advised to by one 590 instead as it is the highest end card and will run anything.

I have a good job, so was thinking maybe sli the 590 in 2-3 months time?
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totally not worth it, i can assure you hes the only person to recommend sli'ng gtx590s in this forum.

the top speccers, stulid/RJC/Reaper/Olivier and others will recommend 2xgtx580s over 1xgtx590.
 
Jony27 said:
totally not worth it, i can assure you hes the only person to recommend sli'ng gtx590s in this forum.

the top speccers, stulid/RJC/Reaper/Olivier and others will recommend 2xgtx580s over 1xgtx590.
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Anyone else agree?

What card would you recommend then instead of the 590 I picked out?
 
Dogtaguk said:
Anyone else agree?

What card would you recommend then instead of the 590 I picked out?
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I'm not sure i'd pump that much money into current video cards. New cards from AMD and NVidia are not too far away. You'd be better off getting a GTX570 or a 6950 and then selling and replacing with one of the new gen when they come out.
 
IvanDobskey said:
I'm not sure i'd pump that much money into current video cards. New cards from AMD and NVidia are not too far away. You'd be better off getting a GTX570 or a 6950 and then selling and replacing with one of the new gen when they come out.
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Personally I dont see the point of this if I'm already getting advised not to get a 590. Surely if you were going to do it your way, it would make more sense to buy the one 590 and then sli it when the price comes down after the new cards are released?
 
A 590 is already dual GPU though. Adding an extra one for quad GPU results in massively diminishing returns, a very hot case and an empty wallet. I much prefer a single GPU solution myself unless you really need the extra power for multiple monitors or 3D. Each to their own though.
 
IvanDobskey said:
I can't see games using hyperthreading for a long long time. I'll wager that by the time they do, we will all have changed our CPU's at least 3 times :p
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*cough* BF3 *cough*
but your right, there are so few games that use hyperthreading that it isnt worth it for gaming.

as for SLIing 590's its really not worth it. unless you are gaming on more than three monitors i honestly cant see a reason to get that much power. also, i hear SLI'd 590s and crossfired 6990's both get microstuttering

heres a recommendation from me. i assumed the HAFX was your favourite looking case in the £100+ price range so went with that

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 580 OC Twin FrozR II 1536MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £365.99 (£731.98)
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £175.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £159.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £145.99
1 x Cooler Master HAF X Gaming Tower Case - Black (RC-942) £125.99
1 x OCZ Z-Series 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £99.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Bundle - Home Premium 64 Bit £68.40
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £43.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA775/AM2/AM3) £54.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) £43.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £37.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.98
Total : £1,725.48 (includes shipping : £16.85).

theres only 8GB RAM in there partly because you cant have more than one lot of this ram because its on a very special offer, but mostly because you dont need any more than 8GB RAM for gaming. you dont really need much more than 4GB, but 8GB is so cheap theres no reason not to recommend it

i assume you have your reasons for the two 1TB storage drives (i just hope the reason isnt raid 0)

if your wondering this is what we use to get the specs looking the way they do: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/empfloiadabicdlgahhamannadefhehj
it was made by olivier renault on this forum, and is a very handy way of presenting specs if you have chrome :)
 
I take it you downgraded it to an i5 because the i7 isnt actually needed as someone else said eariler in here?

Also, someone else mentioned that CPU cooler. Is it better than the H80 watercooler?

Your build seems a hell of a lot better than mine. I think I am just going overkill cause I have the money there to do so. Seems yours is more thought out, and still seems amazing. Will seriously consider this.
 
Dogtaguk said:
I take it you downgraded it to an i5 because the i7 isnt actually needed as someone else said eariler in here?

Also, someone else mentioned that CPU cooler. Is it better than the H80 watercooler?

Your build seems a hell of a lot better than mine. I think I am just going overkill cause I have the money there to do so. Seems yours is more thought out, and still seems amazing. Will seriously consider this.
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H80 review results
Thermalright silver arrow review results

as you can see from that, the silver arrow and H80 have similar performance while making the same amount of noise. the only way the H80 gets the processor any cooler is by being louder. not exactly worth the extra £25 imo

however, if OcUK started to sell the OcUK H2flo extreme + two gelid fans for £58 again then i would recommend that, because it was the corsair H80 with much better and quieter fans (it was so much cheaper because OcUK removed corsair's finger from the proverbial pie)
 
Reaper 392 said:
H80 review results
Thermalright silver arrow review results

as you can see from that, the silver arrow and H80 have similar performance while making the same amount of noise. the only way the H80 gets the processor any cooler is by being louder. not exactly worth the extra £25 imo

however, if OcUK started to sell the OcUK H2flo extreme + two gelid fans for £58 again then i would recommend that, because it was the corsair H80 with much better and quieter fans (it was so much cheaper because OcUK removed corsair's finger from the proverbial pie)
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Can not thank you enough for your help man. You just saved me about £300, hahaha.

Seriously though, I think this will be my new build. Its cheaper and looks a lot better than what I had in mind, which looks like it would have been overkill.

Thanks again!
 


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thats what i would do when sli cards you need teh refrence design to get the hot air out off the case and there is no better case for that then the raven

Also if your looking to overclock your 580s youll want more than 850w my old 850w which was a quality CWT struggled with 2 highlyclocked 470's so for the 580's i would 100% go for 1000w as you dont want 2 good clocking cards then find the psu is limiting them

plus points are (580 sli)(128gb M4)(16gb ram)(H80)(extra 1tb)(1000w psu) and still over £200 left to spend
 


if you want nothing but pure power this is for you .....


Massive 2.5gb tri sli with a overclocked 2600k and 16gb of ram with 128gb ssd with 1250w PSU

would be a bit loud and warm but the case should handle it with the 90 degree mounting true beast for £2000
 
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