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zappa69 said:
Yeah I may be able to up my budget a little as I might get the majority of components now, however I may wait till after xmas for the GPU or processor and may have a little more cash then.
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Do not buy you parts in batches if you can't easily test them once you receive them, you will regret it if something doesn't work. Fair enough if you see an offer for a very cheap SSD which is very unlikely to be faulty and is easy to return/exchange.

Also don't buy a Gamemax PSU, unless you are building the system for someone you don't like. :)
 
mickyflinn said:
Not a decent quality psu mediocre at best spend a bit extra and invest In a psu with 10 year warranty.

That model 6750xt is exactly the max length that the case allows 327mm , it mite be a problem.

Please check to concur.
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Hi, These are the max dimensions for the case:

  • Maximum GPU Length - 327mm
  • Maximum CPU Cooler Height - 161mm
And these for the GPU:

Dimensions327 x 137 x 56 mm

So yeah length of the card is max the case can take. Is that going to be an issue?

I'll swap out the PSU for https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...s-gold-certified-fully-modular-ca-00j-ms.html
 
Journey said:
Do not buy you parts in batches if you can't easily test them once you receive them, you will regret it if something doesn't work. Fair enough if you see an offer for a very cheap SSD which is very unlikely to be faulty and is easy to return/exchange.

Also don't buy a Gamemax PSU, unless you are building the system for someone you don't like. :)
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Ok, note taken. I'll replace PSU with: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...s-gold-certified-fully-modular-ca-00j-ms.html

thanks
 
zappa69 said:
Hi, These are the max dimensions for the case:

  • Maximum GPU Length - 327mm
  • Maximum CPU Cooler Height - 161mm
And these for the GPU:

Dimensions327 x 137 x 56 mm

So yeah length of the card is max the case can take. Is that going to be an issue?

I'll swap out the PSU for https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...s-gold-certified-fully-modular-ca-00j-ms.html
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The asasain is 155mm tall so alls good .

There could be a potential issuie but can't say for certain with the gpu and case, it's your call.

Psu much better.
 
might be a bit late but why if going for new build go with am4? a 5800X3d is best gaming cpu but the 7600X is on a par for £100 less, and money saved can be put to use with the more expensive mobo/ddr5..but at least you then have a system you can upgrade the cpu down the line
 
Craig_d1 said:
might be a bit late but why if going for new build go with am4? a 5800X3d is best gaming cpu but the 7600X is on a par for £100 less, and money saved can be put to use with the more expensive mobo/ddr5..but at least you then have a system you can upgrade the cpu down the line
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I have not built a pc in years and am completely out of the loop on the what's about, hence my post on this forum. I'd be more that happy for you to recommend a AM5 setup but I imagined it would be out of my budget!
 
The main problems with am5 is the cost of the ram and the motherboards. You idealy want 6000 speed with as tight timings as possible to help performence but thats expensive.

This is the cheapest i can do using 6000 speed ram but its not in stock atm.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £698.96 (Includes shipping: £0.00)​



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zappa69 said:
I imagined it would be out of my budget!
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It pretty much is unless you buy cheapo RAM and upgrade later. You might be able to squeeze in a 7600X, and 16GB DDR5 4800 MT/s on a B650 M-ATX board for ~£500, leaving £500 for the entire rest of your system from your £100 budget, and you'd probably want to upgrade your RAM as well.

With a cheap £100 B550, £140 CPU, and £50 DDR4, you can use it for 12-18 months and you'll still lost less than 50% (£145) if you decided to upgrade sooner.
 
dfour said:
The main problems with am5 is the cost of the ram and the motherboards. You idealy want 6000 speed with as tight timings as possible to help performence but thats expensive.

This is the cheapest i can do using 6000 speed ram but its not in stock atm.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £698.96 (Includes shipping: £0.00)​

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you can get 32gb kingston fury beast rgb (didn't have non so that's what it is ) 5200c38 (2*16gb) for £145 at mo..prob just as fast as 3600C16 ddr4...as you say, 6000 sweet spot and will give you better performance than ddr4
for 6000 seen the gskill 6000C36 for £185 or kingston renegade 6000C32 for £197
I'd prob choose the 7600x over 7700x though. £269 v £339 and 5800x3d is £369
12 game av for 1080p with 3090ti on HU was 218fps 7700x, 211 fps 7600x and 203 fps 5800x3d..going up to 1440p that will shrink..so 5% better with 7700x for 26% price premium(at 1080p with 3090ti)
I'd save cash and put towards a better mobo..idea of the am5 is that in a few years you drop in a new cpu without having to bother with anything else...I think 5800x3d more for those that want best performance but already have a setup...if going am4, it's cost exercise at this point so 5600 with a budget mobo makes more sense to me..
sorry..only saw OP putting 5800x3d in his build with a tuf b550 mobo..so that's £520 in just those two
Gamemax 850W psu? can i ask how much..what warranty does it have..
take it OP you're going small with the micro board etc?
sorry, nothing wrong with am4 per say(have it myself), just you're limiting your upgrade down the line...just from my personal viewpoint I guess, but need to build another pc myself soon, and no way i'd go am4 now spending £370 on a cpu unless I had existing hardware, or unless on a tight budget..

just reread post.. @dfour personally, like your 5600 build if going am4 route.

below put that ram is, as looks the same as the 5200c36 away..so just knock off £55 from price and buy other stuff...so £650..or get 6000c32 if want to spend the below...don't think that'd be too different from the 5800x3d build..maybe £30. i'd pay £30 to be abole to drop a faster cpu down the line without having to fork out for new mobo etc.
one thing would look at is some reviews of micro boards etc..go too cheap, and in future guessing newer cpu will use more power..the 3d versions on the 7000 series cpu's for example use 170w on the 7600x3d and 7700x3d/7800x3d compared to 105w for the existing line up..you don't want to get a mobo that will struggle in future

right, brain fried and 1.30 am so hitting bed...also, i know Op you said you like micro case etc, but with gpu's getting bigger all time, might want an atx case so you don't limit your future upgradeability down the line..just a thought

anyway, good luck...sure you'll get a great gaming rig either way

My basket at OcUK:

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Once again many thanks for your time and advice.

Having read through all the posts this is what I think would be best suited for my situation: I've gone ATX as per advice

 
Do not buy 5200 MT/s RAM if you are already blowing the budget then there is only £35 difference between those and a decent 6000 MT/s EXPO kit. Pointless totally hobbling the build if you are committing to 32GB and DDR5!

What if your new budget? ;)
 
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Journey said:
Do not buy 5200 MT/s RAM if you are already blowing the budget then there is only £35 difference between those and a decent 6000 MT/s EXPO kit. Pointless totally hobbling the build if you are committing to 32GB and DDR5! :D

What if your new budget? ;)
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Can you point me in the direction of the 6000 MT/s EXPO kit please.
New budget is about £1200 as I am asking for less expensive parts for xmas presents :)
 
The below is the ram I talked about originally for £195 away in stock atm..actually, just checked..today it's £197.58, but includes free delivery..as an alternative to the stuff above..C32 better timings than the C38...the rgb variant is sold out atm, more in a week

My basket at OcUK:

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other stuff they have is this, but £201.67....6000C36 though, so above s/b faster..does look nice though, actually, they have the black non rgb for £185.55)​
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zappa69 said:
Would this RAM be suitable?? https://www.***********/global/uk-en/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr5-sdram/p/N82E16820374351 as this stuff isnt in stock yet https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...t-black-flabd532g6000hc38adc01-my-0b2-tg.html
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you can't link a competitors product as goes against forum rules...that being said, link is for shipping from U.S for g.skill stuff..same stuff i put for £201 incl delivery from uk site if you look(with next day delivery)..your site would involve paying for shipping on top of stated price if you continue to payment..I'd stick to buying in UK
 
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Craig_d1 said:
you can't link a competitors product as goes against forum rules...that being said, link is for shipping from U.S for g.skill stuff..same stuff i put for £201 incl delivery from uk site if you look(with next day delivery)..your site would involve paying for shipping on top of stated price if you continue to payment..I'd stick to buying in UK
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Ah ok - apologies my bad.
 
zappa69 said:
Hi, I have a budget of about £1000 (no higher) to build a mid range gaming pc. I'll purchase a better monitor down the line. Just wandered what my option are in terms of best bang for buck.

I have a rough idea of components but am not really sure of what works best these days

Kingston NV1 500GB PCIe NVMe M.2 Internal SSD (SNVS/500G)

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Desktop Processor (6-core/12-thread, 35 MB cache, up to 4.4 GHz max boost)

ASUS TUF Gaming B550-PRO AMD AM4(Ryzen 5000/3000) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0,12+2 Power Stages,2.5Gb LAN,USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C®,Front USB Type-C®, BIOS Flashback, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header) OR ASUS Prime B550M-A/CSM AMD AM4 (3rd Gen Ryzen™) microATX Commercial Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, ECC Memory, 1Gb LAN, HDMI 2.1/D-Sub, 4K@60HZ, TPM, ASUS Control Center Express)

EVGA 100-N1-0650-L1, 650 N1, 650W, 2 Year Warranty, Power Supply

Kingston FURY Beast RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16 Desktop Memory Kit of 2 KF432C16BBAK2/16

Would these components work? and what GPU should I go for??
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The components you have listed should work together just fine. For your GPU, I'd recommend either the Nvidia RTX 3060 or the AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT. Both cards offer great performance for the price and should offer plenty of power for mid-range gaming.
 
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