New Build i7-3770K -> i7 / i9 / AMD??

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Currently have a i7-3770k @4.5GHz with a 1070 GTX. Still holding its own gaming but after 6 years I've got that itch to get something new. Have a growing need for a new second PC so will be giving the old kit a new home in a NZXT H500.

Currently torn between buying the best I can now i7-8700K / i9-9900K or going for a cheaper Ryzen 5 2600 with the prospect of been able to upgrade to Zen 2 / 3 in the future. Looks like the Ryzen 2600 will still be a significant boost over my current rig. Want a build that will last me another 5+ years (with upgrades). How realistic is it to expect a x470 motherboard to support future Ryzen CPU's?

Looking to keep the following components for now:
  • Case: Silverstone Fortress FT02
  • CPU Cooler: Phanteks Red PH-TC14PE
  • PSU: Corsair HX 850W Modular
  • GPU: MSI 1070 GTX Gaming (may upgrade when next gen is out)
  • Display: Samsung TV 40" 4k
New parts:
  • Motherboard z370 or x470
  • G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 (3200 - 3600Mhz)
  • Samsung 970 EVO POLARIS M.2 NVME 500GB / 1TB
  • i7-8700K / i9-9900K / Ryzen 2600
 
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free 480 ssd and farcry 5 game via aorus


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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £730.46 (includes shipping: £10.50)


have an easier time listing 2700x when zen2 comes along next year and x370 flagship board so will handle zen2 and is better then averaged priced X470

samsung B-Die ram as well, 8 Packs own which a lot of us use​
 
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Think the 2700x is a bit over budget and would bug me that can have a faster 8700k for about the same price.

From the benchmarks it looks like single core performance on a [email protected] is same as 2700x anyhow. By the time more cores matter for gaming in 18 months or so, I will probably be looking at upgrading to Zen 2 Ryzen 7 / Zen 3 Ryzen 5. Never gone down the CPU upgrade route before, but current options seem a little weak with the prospect of things shifting to 12+ cores over the next few years. Is Zen 3 expected to still be AM4 and compatible with older boards? (Coming from Intel it sounds crazy impossible)

Could play the waiting game but looks like Oct for a overpriced i9-9900k or April 2019 for Zen 2?
 
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Think the 2700x is a bit over budget and would bug me that can have a faster 8700k for about the same price.

From the benchmarks it looks like single core performance on a [email protected] is same as 2700x anyhow. By the time more cores matter for gaming in 18 months or so, I will probably be looking at upgrading to Zen 2 Ryzen 7 / Zen 3 Ryzen 5. Never gone down the CPU upgrade route before, but current options seem a little weak with the prospect of things shifting to 12+ cores over the next few years. Is Zen 3 expected to still be AM4 and compatible with older boards? (Coming from Intel it sounds crazy impossible)

Could play the waiting game but looks like Oct for a overpriced i9-9900k or April 2019 for Zen 2?

above combo is cheaper then single parts put together- purely for the fact of free SSD and game .
NVMe aren;t needed unless your doing intensive data heavy workloads or on sale for a small volume for OS.

8700k is faster, but being replaced along with z370 boards which weren't coffeelake chipsets like b450/h370 . though should get good sale price when 8700k replaces it - least its soldered this time- 8700k needs some good cooling

Zen2 refresh will launch 2020 but so will DDR5 so most likely Zen3 will be DDR5 based

X370 Strix bundle isn't to bad but would rather push x370 hero/taichi/aorus k7 boards to be pushed with Zen 2 chips

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £610.07 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
 
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Not sure about the bundles, like to take my time to pick and choose the exact parts I want (it's part the fun of a new build).

i7-8700K being only 6 cores is not quite as good a i'd like for long term, 9900k sounds promising but overpriced and there is plenty not to like about Intel at the moment. Zen 2 Ryzen sounds very promising; 12-16 cores, 7nm, increased IPC and clock. Think a 2600 would tide me over till Zen 3 drops then can pickup a cheap Zen 2.

Know I don't need NVMe but it's a new thing to play with. Wouldn't choose to buy a sata SSD <1TB, games are getting big now.
 
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depends how you look at it , i7 2nd gen's are doing just fine currently and if overclocked to 4.5ghz match ryzen and 8th gen chips just fine. specially at 1440p plus. so in theory, 6 core 8700k should last easily just as long as 4 core i7s :)

just slap in a ryzen 1600 and save cash is going zen 2 - if overclocked not much difference to 2600 overclocked :)
would recommend flagship x470 boards like aorus 7, asus hero or asrock taichi though
 
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do you need to upgrade/have a 2nd pc now? if not, then #justwait.
i can't see you gaining much fps (with a 1070), going from a well clocked 3770k to a 2600x (or an 8700k) unless you need the 2 extra cores for other stuff
(or rather, the marginal fps gains do not warrant the outlay - aka bad value for money)

my 3770k @ 4.4ghz is driving a 1080ti no issues.
 
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do you need to upgrade/have a 2nd pc now? if not, then #justwait.
i can't see you gaining much fps (with a 1070), going from a well clocked 3770k to a 2600x (or an 8700k) unless you need the 2 extra cores for other stuff
(or rather, the marginal fps gains do not warrant the outlay - aka bad value for money)

Problem is the missus does need it, the core 2 duo shes still using is struggling with basic stuff even though it's already got a SSD.
 
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