New Build - Old Build Dead

JollyJamma · 15 Mar 2022 at 11:16

0007 said:
Yeah DDR4 is the way to go for at least another year now, don't think it's worth it until the cost correctly reflects the increase in performance.

Its madness because its still first gen RAM. Also, good DDR4 is stupidly cheap.

Yes, you can buy a DDR5 build now but there will be a refreshed motherboard and RAM in the future that overclocks better than it and youd probably be due for an upgrade at that point anyway.

Im just hoovering up good DDR4 sets second hand at the moment.

Craig_d1 · 15 Mar 2022 at 11:34

I agree with JollyJamma, the MSI board best of the cheaper z690 boards. If you planning or using a more powerful cpu, then the Tomahawk next level up. It has better vrm's and runs cooler..that or the tuf board but that's more expensive. For Storage, I'd prob look at the crucial nvme's below. For gen 4 drives, they're well prices atm. The Z690 board can take 3 x gen4 nvme's and 1 x gen3 so plenty of options, whether going just for 1 x 2tb nvme or 2 x 1tb etc
Just remember if getting the 12600k to get oem version as sames £10 on the retail version(difference being the packaging)

My basket at OcUK:

1 x MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36D-MS) = £199.99
1 x Crucial P5P 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-075-CR) = £259.99
1 x Crucial Ballistix Promotion: £20 Gamesplanet Voucher (SKU: XX-004-CR) = £0.00...promo with the 2tb p5p above
1 x Crucial P5P 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 3D NAND NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-074-CR) = £113.00...£112.99 but goes up when posting on forum by 1p
1 x MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-36B-MS) = £259.99

Total: £844.07 (includes delivery: £11.10)

GeordieStew · 15 Mar 2022 at 11:52

Thanks all

Gone for
Intel Core i5-12600K
MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2
Noctua NH-U12S redux
CORSAIR CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 VENGEANCE LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 x 2

IF my PSU is knackered or my GPU is knackered, what are my "best" options?

Turn · 15 Mar 2022 at 11:58

RM650/RM750(2021)/RM850(2021) depending on your GPU.
I'd probably just go for 750/850 if you plan to upgrade your GPU down the line, especially if it's going to be something beefy.

JollyJamma · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:01

GeordieStew said:
Thanks all

Gone for
Intel Core i5-12600K
MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB M.2
Noctua NH-U12S redux
CORSAIR CMK64GX4M2E3200C16 VENGEANCE LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 x 2

IF my PSU is knackered or my GPU is knackered, what are my "best" options?

Very nice. Enjoy the massive upgrade.

RM750(i) is pretty good for a PSU and do you use a programme that makes use of Cuda cores?

I presume you want a platinum rated PSU though?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...-platinum-modular-power-supply-ca-06q-ss.html

GeordieStew · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:03

Don't use CUDA cores. Don't expect I will really. Probably

JollyJamma · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:06

GeordieStew said:
Don't use CUDA cores. Don't expect I will really. Probably

Then any graphics card will do really. WHat do you have at the moment? How much power do you need? Casual gaming on the side or do you just need a display output?

You could get anything from a GT710 entry level GPU to a 1050ti to a 3060 12gig depending on your needs. AMD 6600 isnt a bad option for a midrange card either.

mickyflinn · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:08

GeordieStew said:
Don't use CUDA cores. Don't expect I will really. Probably

Use the onboard graphics unless you need a more powerful gpu.

GeordieStew · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:14

Got a 1080 at the moment. I think my top budget would be 500ish IF I had to replace it.

JollyJamma · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:16

GeordieStew said:
Got a 1080 at the moment. I think my top budget would be 500ish IF I had to replace it.

Test the GPU when you get the new rig.

If it doesnt work, use the onboard and see if that works for you. If you need more grunt, a 3060 12gig or 3060ti would be a good replacement.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1e3-gi.html

AMD option

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powe...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1aa-pc.html

Edit: just saw this on preorder and its a 3060ti at a good price

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-46r-as.html

Craig_d1 · 15 Mar 2022 at 12:50

JollyJamma said:
Test the GPU when you get the new rig.

If it doesnt work, use the onboard and see if that works for you. If you need more grunt, a 3060 12gig or 3060ti would be a good replacement.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1e3-gi.html

AMD option

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powe...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-1aa-pc.html

Edit: just saw this on preorder and its a 3060ti at a good price

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-46r-as.html

they have the 3060 version coming in also. Another well known store has them both in stock, but more expensive. Nice to see these priced more reasonably compared to a couple of months ago
My basket at OcUK:

1 x Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Dual V2 LHR 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-463-AS) = £439.99

Total: £449.89 (includes delivery: £9.90)

JollyJamma · 15 Mar 2022 at 13:06

GeordieStew ~~Just remember that a 3060 Ti will use a lot less power than a 1080. If you are that worried about power draw, the 1080 would be the first thing to go.~~

Scratch that, seems to use about the same power draw.

GeordieStew · 16 Mar 2022 at 22:52

Everything I'd ordered arrived today. Booted up first time. Guess gpu and psu are both ok. No idea what was bust with old mobo, cpu, ram. Maybe I'll investigate one day. Thank you all for the advice.

JollyJamma · 17 Mar 2022 at 07:31

GeordieStew said:
Everything I'd ordered arrived today. Booted up first time. Guess gpu and psu are both ok. No idea what was bust with old mobo, cpu, ram. Maybe I'll investigate one day. Thank you all for the advice.

Probably a dead motherboard.
But how much faster is it?

enjoy the new build!!