New Build

tsj · 24 Mar 2007 at 22:03

NiteMare said:
The more I search the more I read bad things about vista and games so i'm swaying back to XP, I can always upgrade to vista in a years time when they get all the drivers sorted and the games being realesed will be designed with it in mind!

Stick to Xp until the drivers get a bit better then mate

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 07:21

Jimmy1983 said:
Is the Asus P5N-E much better than the DS3 then? Has either got on board gfx?

650 chipset with a few more features. Very good overclocker.

Neither has onboard graphics, but something akin to a 7300 card can be picked up for about £30. Example - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-SP&groupid=595&catid=597&subcat=637

Jimmy1983 · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:28

masslac said:
650 chipset with a few more features. Very good overclocker.

Neither has onboard graphics, but something akin to a 7300 card can be picked up for about £30. Example - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-SP&groupid=595&catid=597&subcat=637

I don't mean to hijack your thread Nitemare!

Masslac, Iam going to attempt my first build soon using a e6600 I was originally thinking about getting a mobo with onboard gfx and then saving some money up and getting a top end gfx card at a later date.

But know I thinking your idea is better just get a cheap gfx card for the time being. At the moment its between the DS3 or Asus P5N-E.

Appreciate any input

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:30

Hmm. Asus by a nose. Both are superb boards.

As for the card, look at either a 7600GT or 1950 PRO. You'll be able to sell either for a decent price when it's time to upgrade.

Jimmy1983 · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:46

masslac said:
Hmm. Asus by a nose. Both are superb boards.

As for the card, look at either a 7600GT or 1950 PRO. You'll be able to sell either for a decent price when it's time to upgrade.

7600GT

this one?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-019-BG&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=356

1950 PRO

This http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=404

or
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-070-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=404

sorry i dont know much about gfx cards yet I had'nt really started to research them just yet.

To be honest I was thinking off spending abit less on a temporary gfx, but I could probably stretch to that price if needed. Will all off those cards run vista ultimate with aero etc?

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:51

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-134-SP&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=404

HIS cards are prone to failure.

Aero will be no problem for either.

If you really don't want to spend much now, grab this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-SP&groupid=595&catid=597&subcat=637

I'd personally go for the sapphire 1950 PRO. In fact, I will be in about a week.

Jimmy1983 · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:57

How much does this normally retail for http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-SP&groupid=595&catid=597&subcat=637

Noticed its in clearance, b grade will it have been used for testing purposes? I take it this card would struggle to using aero, do you really need 256MB for it?

NiteMare · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:57

Hi Guys

As i mentioned I picked up the Connect3d X1950XT a few weeks back so hopefully when I get a system to put it in this will keep me going for a while and I can upgrade to a DX10 card later

Also with regards to my Vista or XP dilema I posted a question in the software forum but maybe you can comment: -

What about a dual boot system?

For sake of an extra £70 i could go for a larger HD and a copy of XP home edition?

Is is posible to install an OEM copy of Vista 64bit (OEM) and XP Home (OEM) in dual boot mode on a new build?

Has anyone done this?
Any downside apart from the extra cost?

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 10:59

Jimmy1983 said:
How much does this normally retail for http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-086-SP&groupid=595&catid=597&subcat=637

It's in clearance because it's old. IE - hardly anywhere will still have them for sale.

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 11:01

NiteMare said:
Is is posible to install an OEM copy of Vista 64bit (OEM) and XP Home (OEM) in dual boot mode on a new build?

There's just no point in spending money on XP now that Vista is on the market.

NiteMare · 25 Mar 2007 at 11:03

I dont already have the XP disk (apart from the disk that came with my old Evesham system 4 years ago!) so would have to pay the extra £50 for this ontop of a copy of Vista

masslac · 25 Mar 2007 at 11:04

Sod that.

Jimmy1983 · 25 Mar 2007 at 11:06

NiteMare said:
I dont already have the XP disk (apart from the disk that came with my old Evesham system 4 years ago!) so would have to pay the extra £50 for this ontop of a copy of Vista

I would go for Vista if it was me.

Any news on when a service will be out for it?

NiteMare · 25 Mar 2007 at 19:22

Okay I have been doing some more reading and have found enough favourable comments to say that some of the games that I want to play are working for some people at least! therefore I have decided to bite the bullet and go Vista 64bit

Now thats sorted I have another dilema: -

The Seagate Baracuda 500G drive is on offer of the week at £88.11 The 320G I had selected is £61.09 so that only another £27 for extra 180G

Or would I be better off again spending even moreand getting 2x250 or 2x320!

decisions decisions!!!

Jimmy1983 · 25 Mar 2007 at 20:01

NiteMare said:
Okay I have been doing some more reading and have found enough favourable comments to say that some of the games that I want to play are working for some people at least! therefore I have decided to bite the bullet and go Vista 64bit

Now thats sorted I have another dilema: -

The Seagate Baracuda 500G drive is on offer of the week at £88.11 The 320G I had selected is £61.09 so that only another £27 for extra 180G

Or would I be better off again spending even moreand getting 2x250 or 2x320!

decisions decisions!!!

Ive got X250gig HDD's the slave I have my acronis back-up on. Iam quite happy althought I would for X2 320's now.

NiteMare · 26 Mar 2007 at 10:11

Just sent the order so hopefully will be delivered tommorrow

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit Edition DVD - OEM - 1Pk (66I-00788) £63.99 1 £63.99
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - Retail £162.99 1 £162.99
Samsung SH-183LBEBN 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer Serial ATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £19.99 1 £19.99
GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GX22GB6400UDC) £99.99 1 £99.99
Asus P5B Deluxe (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard £103.99 1 £103.99
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK) £59.99 1 £59.99
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 775) £13.99 1 £13.99
Lian-Li PC-7 PLUS Aluminium Midi-Tower Case - Black £49.99 1 £49.99
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £5.99 1 £5.99
Samsung SM-226BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Silver/Black £229.99 1 £229.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB ST3500630AS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM £74.99 1 £74.99

Sub Total: £885.89
Shipping: £12.95
Total Vat: £157.30
Total inc Vat: £1,056.14

mishima · 26 Mar 2007 at 10:40

Superb, very nice selections in that list that thing will take off! You had some good recommendations there.

NiteMare · 27 Mar 2007 at 19:31

Thanks, all the bits turned up at 10:00 this morning which is only 24 hours since I placed the order :cool:

Just double checked everthing seems to be here so now to plan which bit goes where

Jimmy1983 · 27 Mar 2007 at 20:01

NiteMare said:
Thanks, all the bits turned up at 10:00 this morning which is only 24 hours since I placed the order

Just double checked everthing seems to be here so now to plan which bit goes where

Let us know how you get on, with pictures please

NiteMare · 27 Mar 2007 at 20:07

Just finished putting the mouting screws into the case an about to unpack the CPU.

I havent got a digi cam at the moment so cant post any picks, I will try and borrow one from work tommorrow!