New Case - Mobo Help

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Hi All,

I have not been on here for a while, as the desktop machine has been in storage, and been using the laptop (which is a pretty basic machine.

Anyhow, the desktop is back out of storage now, and the case has been damaged. Plus, the power button is on its last legs, and this will break anytime.

bascially, i want to get a new case for my machine. Ive never done this before and i havn't got a clue where to start at all.

Not sure what for factor my mobo is either, or what type of case i need to get, so that my mobo & componenets fit properly. ive been trying to get Belarc advisr installed on the desktop, but i cant remember the password for the admin account, so i'm on a guest account atm, so i cant install it. Just done an 'online scan' and it mentioned that my Mobo is the following:

Giga-Byte 7VT600-RZ

Does that sound right?

if so, please can someone advise me of that type of form factor case i will need for this machine, and if you have any links to decent sites that sell cases also.

P.S. Any tips for when i do change the cases etc?

I know this is war and peace, but i dont want to f*ck it up :confused:

Thanks for your help :)
 
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OcUK sell a variety of cases for most budgets. How much do you have to spend?

Your board is a standard ATX board, and will fit into any ATX case.

OcUK cases.

Thanks for the response Dr!!

I havn't got a budget really.....dont want to spend a bomb on a case, but i'm open to recommendations.

Some of the boards on the above page dont state wether they are ATX or not????

:confused:
 
If it doesn't mention a size, 99 times out of 100, it's ATX. microATX cases and motherboards are labelled as such to prevent mistakes.

The P182 is a fantastic case. I recommend it highly. The only niggle is that you might need/want an extension cord for the 24-pin power connector from the PSU to the mobo.
 
If it doesn't mention a size, 99 times out of 100, it's ATX. microATX cases and motherboards are labelled as such to prevent mistakes.

The P182 is a fantastic case. I recommend it highly. The only niggle is that you might need/want an extension cord for the 24-pin power connector from the PSU to the mobo.

Cheers Billy!!!

Do OC store these extension cords? are they expensive? is it worth buying one with the case, just incase i need it?

HOw quick are OC with Deliveries?
 
PK's Top Tips on taking your computer apart and putting it back together again

As this is your first time doing this kind of thing, here are a few patronising words in an attempt to make myself sound wise.


Do a bit of preparation

I know its exciting when you get new gadgets, but take a little time to think through what you've got to do. Take a look at the installation guides in your component manuals, clear a well lit space to work in and make sure you've got all the tools and bits you're going to need.


Keep track of your screws!

When taking things apart these little things are always a pain, and can dissapear quicker than a pie near John Presscott. I personally go for a jar lid or other small container to help keep track of them.
Try to remember what kind of screw went where, as they can be different types.
If you do drop a screw into the case (and if you're like me you probably will) pick it up carefully, and if needed use a pair of tweasers. Make sure you don't leave it in there, as it may short something out and do some damage.


Remember what goes where

If you're unfamiliar with the insides of a computer all the wires and other bits can be very confusing. These days the different connectors make it hard to go seriously wrong, but its still easy to forget to put something back and be stumped when it doesnt turn back on later. Don't be afraid to put sticky labels on the wires to help you remember, although its probably not best to put them on your motherboard! Making notes and sketching the way things are connected (especially the front pannel connectors) can be useful too.


The trickiest bit: mounting the motherboard

I think this is the most crucial bit of any build. Once this is in all the other components just slot into place, so take your time with it.
First check you have the risers (the strange hexagonal screws) in the right place so they hold your motherboard away from the case. They should match up with the holes that have metal rings round them. These are the points on your mothereboard that need grounding, so you can ignore any holes that dont have these. An easy way to check you've got the right ones is to put your motherboard on a piece of paper and draw dots through the holes. You can then use the paper to spot where you need to put the screws.
Next, before you put the motherboard in, put in the backplate that came with it. This should fit in the rectangle hole in the back of your case, and are usually a real pain to push in! They usually go in from the inside, and should match up with the ports on your motherboard. You may need to remove the odd bit of metal if some of the ports are optional, and there are often "flappy bits" that rest ontop of the ports to ground them.
Then carefully position your motherboard and screw it down. If its in the right place it should line up nicely.


And finally, don't be afraid to ask for help!

Even if its a stupid question, we've all been there on our first builds so we'll all be happy to help. If you can post a picture of whats wrong then it makes it even easier.

Right, sorry I rambled on a bit there, hope i haven't made too many mistakes!

PK!
 
As this is your first time doing this kind of thing, here are a few patronising words in an attempt to make myself sound wise.


Do a bit of preparation

I know its exciting when you get new gadgets, but take a little time to think through what you've got to do. Take a look at the installation guides in your component manuals, clear a well lit space to work in and make sure you've got all the tools and bits you're going to need.


Keep track of your screws!

When taking things apart these little things are always a pain, and can dissapear quicker than a pie near John Presscott. I personally go for a jar lid or other small container to help keep track of them.
Try to remember what kind of screw went where, as they can be different types.
If you do drop a screw into the case (and if you're like me you probably will) pick it up carefully, and if needed use a pair of tweasers. Make sure you don't leave it in there, as it may short something out and do some damage.


Remember what goes where

If you're unfamiliar with the insides of a computer all the wires and other bits can be very confusing. These days the different connectors make it hard to go seriously wrong, but its still easy to forget to put something back and be stumped when it doesnt turn back on later. Don't be afraid to put sticky labels on the wires to help you remember, although its probably not best to put them on your motherboard! Making notes and sketching the way things are connected (especially the front pannel connectors) can be useful too.


The trickiest bit: mounting the motherboard

I think this is the most crucial bit of any build. Once this is in all the other components just slot into place, so take your time with it.
First check you have the risers (the strange hexagonal screws) in the right place so they hold your motherboard away from the case. They should match up with the holes that have metal rings round them. These are the points on your mothereboard that need grounding, so you can ignore any holes that dont have these. An easy way to check you've got the right ones is to put your motherboard on a piece of paper and draw dots through the holes. You can then use the paper to spot where you need to put the screws.
Next, before you put the motherboard in, put in the backplate that came with it. This should fit in the rectangle hole in the back of your case, and are usually a real pain to push in! They usually go in from the inside, and should match up with the ports on your motherboard. You may need to remove the odd bit of metal if some of the ports are optional, and there are often "flappy bits" that rest ontop of the ports to ground them.
Then carefully position your motherboard and screw it down. If its in the right place it should line up nicely.


And finally, don't be afraid to ask for help!

Even if its a stupid question, we've all been there on our first builds so we'll all be happy to help. If you can post a picture of whats wrong then it makes it even easier.

Right, sorry I rambled on a bit there, hope i haven't made too many mistakes!

PK!

PK...you my friend are owed serveral pints of ICE COLD STELLA!!!! :)

Thanks for the above!!

I consider myself to have good computer knowledge, but that doesnt always count for some things lol.

I'm trying to figure out if i should just order the case......and hope that the power cable is long enough!!!

Or should i just order a longer one too...to save any hasstle?
 
It will fit. It's a good case for the money.

Regarding the above, yes, OcUK does sell the extensions. If you got the P182 I would first wait to see if your PSU will reach, then order the extension if it doesn't.
 
I may be popping back for any help/advice.

P.S. It says taht there are 2 fans provided with the case, my PC is noisy at the moment, i'm not sure if its my Fan thats noisy, will i be able to replace my current fan with these 2 new ones?

Inless the noise is comming from the fan on the heatsink? I'm not sure though
 
The fans are already attached to the case. I suppose that if they were the same size you could take the fans out of the new case and put them in the old one, but I'm not sure why you would want to do that. Other fans in the system include the CPU, the PSU, and the graphics card.
 
Case has arrived...looks great!!!!

I'm doing some prep.....downloading the manual for my Mobo...so hopefully, i shouldnt have any problems with understanding which port/power socket etc is for everything.

Going to take some pictures too, over how everything is connected in the current case.

I'll post back with progress updates or issues :)
 
Well...........what a waste of ****in time that was!!!

Installed everything - no problems at all....

Installed all the components as they were.....(drew diagrams).......

Come to boot-up......

Nothing on the monitor!!!

Machine boots up, sounds normal, but nothing is being displayed.

Typical, just my luck!!!

Feel like throwing it out the window.....and trust me, ive been close!!!!!!
 
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Isnt the graphics card powered from the AGP port?

Honestly, from what i know of ive not done anything different that how it was setup in the previous case!!!???

The only difference is that i have plugged in certail things for the front of the case, like the reset button, message like, power button etc....surely they wouldnt make this issue?

I'm so ****** off!!!!

Cheers for the reply Billy
 
It depends n the graphics card. Less powerful cards are able to take all the power they need from the slot. For other cards this isn't enough so they require supplementary power straight from the PSU.

Do you get a POST beep when booting, or is it just making fan/disk noise? Does it start to load the OS?
 
not hearing any beep, ..it boots up fine, no strange noises or anything.........nothing being dispalyed on the monitor though jsut says 'No Input' on the monitor.

Just out of curiosity, would plugging in certain things make a difference i.e. an LED cable or reset button? Or even plugging one of these types of cables in the wrong way round? i mean plugging the + in on the - terminal for example?

Cant understand how annoyed i am about this
 
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