New case options - opinions/feedback please

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I'm considering a case update for the first time in ~12 years.

Currently I have a Silverstone Fortress FT02, which is a really great case, superb build quality, good cooling, however it struggles with today's large graphics cards - I've had to remove one of the bottom fans to make room for my 7900XT, which whilst long, is far from the longest GPU you can get these days. This has obviously impacted the cooling capability of this case somewhat moving from 3 x 180mm intakes to 2 x 180mm intakes, and no fan directly serving cool air to the GPU.

My other consideration is that when this case was new, most GPUs used the blower fan type, which suited the FT02 layout really well with the bottom to top airflow design of the case. Modern GPU designs almost exclusively have moved away from this layout and the FT02 design is proven to be less effective.

My spec is currently as follows:
- 12600K OC'd to 5GHz (air cooled with Noctua D15S)
- 7900XT (sometimes stock, sometimes OC'd)

I used to have a lot of mechanical drives, which the FT02 supported superbly, but now I've moved to more SSDs (mainly NVME, but one 2.5" SATA & one 3.5" mechanical as well) I don't need the drive capacity. As well as this, the FT02, being a much older design, supports a lot of 5.25" bays which are now completely redundant. All of these factors have led me to consider a new case.

I think I've narrowed it down to two candidates:
- Fractal Torrent RGB
- Lian Li O11D (probably the EVO version, though I'm a little confused as there seem to be so many options for this case, including different sizes)

I should point out that I'm planning to stick with air-cooling.

Fractal case seems to universally score the best in terms of component temperatures etc, and I really like the look of the layout, but I'm conflicted about the possible "plasticyness" of the case. The FT02 is a solid monster being all aluminium and steel. The Torrent seems to have a lot of plastic. It has the bonus of coming with all the fans I'd need included.

The Lian Li case looks really fancy, but by the time I've added all the fancy RGB infinity fans (many of them reverse blade design, for which you can't get triple packs) it works out very expensive. My plan would be to use the side and bottom as intakes (using 6 x reverse blade fans for the looks) and then possibly the rear and top as exhausts (using max 4 x fans), but this would add minimum £180 (for 6 fans) and possibly as much as £300, taking the total cost to between £350 and £470!!! (which seems bonkers to mefor a case!). I do, however, think that the Lian Li case will have better build quality and use higher quality materials.

I want to go RGB this time having swayed from the opinion of "it looks tacky" to "I quite like that when done tastefully".

My preference at the moment is towards the Torrent, mainly because I think it looks like pretty good VFM, but also because of its performance, and steering away from the Lian Li because of the cost.

What would OcUK do?
 
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I have the 011d xl
Build quality is decent
Not in same class as the ft02 in my opinion

And yeah if you want lian li or phanteks d30 fans
It ends up costing you more
For the fans than the actual case costs
Got 13 fans in mine it cost a small fortune
 
I had a regular O11 Dynamic and thought the build quality was not that good, I would expect the Fractal to be better. Perhaps it's improved though with the newer editions
 
LOL I can just imagine pushing the trolley down the stairs with my pc on it.....maybe I need to move it to living room.
Oh there's been days
I have felt like just shoving the thing
Down the stairs :cry:

But the wheels are basically because
My health's so bad nowadays
I can't even turn the pc around if need
To work on it
So it sits on its trolley on a chest 2 feet off the ground
So I can sit and can turn it around
Though still have to take the weight of front end
As it turns
As case is longer than the chest is wide

The joys of getting old
And bad health
And custom watercooling :(
 
I asked @Jay85 for his small build for a Xmas present :cry:
Since he was done with it
And moving onto his next build
Santa still hasn't delivered it yet :cry:

But yeah an external mora
Or similar
Not a bad idea
Wish I could find it now
But some one in the forums not only did similar
But had made the power wires for fans and pump
Into 1 cable from the pc
And even that cable had a quick disconnect
Same idea as the external watercooling had
 
I keep thinking about going for a small itx build with minimal watercooling internally so it can run standalone and undervolted if I need to move it (take it to a friends etc), and then a MORA externally for at home.

I think I'll go that way at some point, but for the time being I can still move the Lian Li 3 with 3 rads in it around well enough :). A smaller box on my desk would be nice though! :D
 
The Torrent, as you’ll be using aircooler.
Using the Phantom Spirit Evo for the 7800x3D and is inaudible up to 40%.
The only thing I’ll suggest is to install a 5mm spacer between the bottom of the case and the provided fans. They’re fine, don’t need to replace. They just need a bigger gap away from the bottom bracket and the noise improvement is massive.
Even running hotter CPUs and GPUs in the Torrent, with worse CPU coolers, O was able to keep a good noise/performance result.
I just decided to go for the Fractal North mesh because of a new ginger kitten :D. Have the case on the desk now.
The big advantage of the Torrent is the supplied fans. If your CPU can be handled with an aircooler, is the “cheapest” solution for excellent performance. 200ish pounds, no need for extra fans, no need for vertical mounting and a 35ish pounds CPU cooler and you’re good to go.
Any fish tank, with the cheap (if supplied at all) fan, will require extra fans. A bit more planing on top exhaust as you don’t want to exhaust cool air before if is available for the CPU cooler. Some are a tight fit for wide GPUs (4000 series, and who knows about next generations?).
There’s other options around, but the torrent, if you like the design and have the space for it is the king for air builds.
One could argue the O11 can match and outperform it. Yes, if you choose an AIO, use about the Torrent’s price in fans and if you use the case on the floor, buy the top mount for its USB ports.
Lian Li is not the quality they used to be. A lot of people are loyal as Asus fans, but Phanteks, Fractal, Corsair and many others are as good (if not better) and usually cheaper.
 
I asked @Jay85 for his small build for a Xmas present :cry:
Since he was done with it
And moving onto his next build
Santa still hasn't delivered it yet :cry:

But yeah an external mora
Or similar
Not a bad idea
Wish I could find it now
But some one in the forums not only did similar
But had made the power wires for fans and pump
Into 1 cable from the pc
And even that cable had a quick disconnect
Same idea as the external watercooling had

Keep waiting mate :p or should i say dreaming :cry::D
 
The Torrent, as you’ll be using aircooler.
Using the Phantom Spirit Evo for the 7800x3D and is inaudible up to 40%.
The only thing I’ll suggest is to install a 5mm spacer between the bottom of the case and the provided fans. They’re fine, don’t need to replace. They just need a bigger gap away from the bottom bracket and the noise improvement is massive.
Even running hotter CPUs and GPUs in the Torrent, with worse CPU coolers, O was able to keep a good noise/performance result.
I just decided to go for the Fractal North mesh because of a new ginger kitten :D. Have the case on the desk now.
The big advantage of the Torrent is the supplied fans. If your CPU can be handled with an aircooler, is the “cheapest” solution for excellent performance. 200ish pounds, no need for extra fans, no need for vertical mounting and a 35ish pounds CPU cooler and you’re good to go.
Any fish tank, with the cheap (if supplied at all) fan, will require extra fans. A bit more planing on top exhaust as you don’t want to exhaust cool air before if is available for the CPU cooler. Some are a tight fit for wide GPUs (4000 series, and who knows about next generations?).
There’s other options around, but the torrent, if you like the design and have the space for it is the king for air builds.
One could argue the O11 can match and outperform it. Yes, if you choose an AIO, use about the Torrent’s price in fans and if you use the case on the floor, buy the top mount for its USB ports.
Lian Li is not the quality they used to be. A lot of people are loyal as Asus fans, but Phanteks, Fractal, Corsair and many others are as good (if not better) and usually cheaper.
Thanks for the detailed feedback, I appreciate it.
 
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