New Computer (Gaming)

[Gerard93]

Hey, first off, I'm new here so hello to everyone.

So I'm wanting a new gaming computer for my 20th just using some of the money I get from my birthday along with my savings. Not sure right now as to what to go for. Will be buying everything from overclockers.

Heres what I have, feel free to make amendments:

YOUR BASKET
1 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2784-KR) £551.99
1 x Samsung 1TB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE1T0BW) £499.99
1 x OcUK Extreme Intel Core i7 4770K @ 4.6GHz+ Extreme Overclocked Bundle £477.41
- 1 x No Cooler Selected £0.00
- 1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Force Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £464.99
1 x BenQ XL2420T 24" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £339.95
1 x NZXT Phantom 820 Enthusiast Ultra Tower Case - Gun Metal £199.99
1 x OcUK Tech Lab - W16 Turbo Watercooling Kit 560 £170.84
- 1 x Hardware Labs Black ICE Radiator SR1 560 £111.98
- 1 x XSPC RayStorm CPU WaterBlock (Intel) £51.98
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Blue Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 850W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £86.99
1 x Asus Xonar D1 7.1 PCI Sound Card £52.99
Total : £3,173.69 (includes shipping : £22.20).




Have I missed anything important? Not sure what headset I'll be needing as of yet but leaning towards PC 350's.

To explain my choices in SSD's - Small one for windows/key programs, big SSD for games. And I'm gonna use my HD from this computer for junk (Music/Movies/Silly files and what not).

As for water cooling, its new to me - How does it all work ?


This Rig wont be set up for another month, like I said, Birthday present kind of, so wont have it till end of October.


Any help is most appreciated,


Gerard



::EDIT::


Heard theres some new Graphics cards coming out on the market soon, so the 780's arent set in stone. Wanna see if there is gonna be better options available

 

[Gerard93]

Sorry for the slow reply.

I want my Processor OC (I dont know what WC means) and I have no idea how to do that myself so was just gonna buy it OC'ed.

I also heard 780's are like the best card out, is there no way I could buy that and have a soundcard? Or did you mean I couldnt run a soundcard with Dual 7970's? As I want a soundcard for my new Headset but dont wanna run external.

I also like the idea of having 2 SSD's ( The really big one and one really small one ) as I already have a HD that I would take from this computer for everything else that can be classed as junk


Colour Scheme? I guess I would like a Black Case but can go for a Gun Metal or perhaps even a white one if the case looks okay in design. Also like the idea of Blue LED (Got blue in this current setup but not enough of it!)



Though feel free to change the lighting colour around as you may change my mind!


Gerard

 

[Gerard93]

double post, my bad (delete please)

 

[Gerard93]

WC is water cooling



They are fantastic cards, but they come with a premium. This does not make them good value for money. If that's not an issue, then go for them, but the current price of the 7970's make them a superb alternative.



Why have a big & small when you can fit in 2x256gb SSD's in your budget?



The NZXT Hue will allow you to change the colour of the LED's which come with it. You get 2 meters of LED cable with a variety of colours. The theme was more to create a build with a colour theme. If you wanted Blue throughout, we'd spec one.

Okay so I should get a CPU Cooler and WC for overclocking?

Dual 7970's is greater than just one Gtx 780? Just I'm wanting this computer to last me a solid 4/5 years atleast before I even have to think about upgrading a single piece so wanting to range stuff.

To explain my choices in SSD's - Small one for windows/key programs, big SSD for games. And I'm gonna use my HD from this computer for junk (Music/Movies/Silly files and what not).

Ehm, I don't know, Just put together some themes for me then, Not to bothered

 

[Gerard93]

A colour that you don't see to often .... Green !!!!

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 PCI-Express 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99 (£999.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £143.99 (£287.98)
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £114.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
2 x Avexir Venom Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIG) - Green Light £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Green £28.45
6 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Shamrock PWM Fan £14.99 (£89.94)
2 x Akasa "Vegas" White LED strip light - 60cm £8.99 (£17.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.49
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Green £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Green £4.99 (£9.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Green £4.49
Total : £2,917.15 (includes shipping : £20.10).

I like it, Dont like the case however and may change the hard drives.

I see what your getting at for the SSDs, but why limit yourself with the potential too have not enough space when you could have ample with2x250/256gb SSDs?

How Will I not have enough space? 120gb SSD/1TB SSD/500GB HD in one pc? Sounds like plenty even though my games alone take up atleast 500GB



So dual 7970's it will be I guess if I dont go for dual Gtx 780's.


Anyone else got any ideas for builds?

 

[Gerard93]

Errr what HDD's?

SSD sorry, to a bigger one and a smaller one

 

[Gerard93]

Im still not sure thats the best idea... Spending nearly £600 on SSD's when for half that you can get 500GB of SSD space which will be a good 50%+ quicker? And then additional 2-3TB hard drive for the rest of the junk.

and a nice £200 saved..

I think thats a better idea.

Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

 

[Gerard93]

Im still not sure thats the best idea... Spending nearly £600 on SSD's when for half that you can get 500GB of SSD space which will be a good 50%+ quicker? And then additional 2-3TB hard drive for the rest of the junk.

and a nice £200 saved..

I think thats a better idea.

Well is there any way I could get like a really small SSD for Windows/Main files then one 500GB for games ? Dont wanna split my games over 2SSDs haha

 

[Gerard93]

Their is no good reason not to split them, you are getting some quality advice here, I would listen to it. get ~256gb ssd and a 3tb drive. 256 tb is enough for Windows 8, all productivity software (office etc) and 100gb of games, with 50gb left spare. Put your documents, music, videos and games you dont access often on the hard drive.

p.s. I'd also go 16gb ram and run a 4gb ram drive. Put firefox cache and a 2gb swap file on their.

hmm

i'll toy about with the build again tonight and link you guys to a knew one!

 

[Gerard93]

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 ACX Superclock 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-2784-KR) £551.99 (£1,103.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD500BW) £271.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
1 x Avexir MPower Red Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-22400C12 2800MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U28001204G-2CI) £169.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Asus Xonar D1 7.1 PCI Sound Card £52.99
Total : £2,675.33 (includes shipping : £13.75).



Can anyone finish this build/tell me something wrong with it? (Bare in mind needs decent cooling for overclocking of the CPU

 

[Gerard93]

Finee finee, I'll stop messing around.

A colour that you don't see to often .... Green !!!!

YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 PCI-Express 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £499.99 (£999.98)
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £369.95
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £143.99 (£287.98)
1 x Antec High Current Pro 750W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £129.95
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £114.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler £103.99
2 x Avexir Venom Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIG) - Green Light £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Green £28.45
6 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Shamrock PWM Fan £14.99 (£89.94)
2 x Akasa "Vegas" White LED strip light - 60cm £8.99 (£17.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Green £6.49
2 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - Green £5.99 (£11.98)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Green £4.99 (£9.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Green £4.49
Total : £2,917.15 (includes shipping : £20.10).

I guess I'll go for this one then, only problems are I dont really like this case (Can anyone think of a possible change of case) and it doesnt have a Soundcard (Would it be able to fit one?) Also is it possible to change to blue rather than green



In regards to selling 2nd hand parts, once I get this I'll have a lot to sell from this pc, too bad I cant sell them on here

 

[Gerard93]

Haha! that made me laugh.. Atleast we have a nice framework to work off now..

So you want "the Big Green machine" to be the "Non-so big Blue and Black Machine"?

Ill get on it.

It can be big, just dont like that case

 

[Gerard93]

You like this one:

YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N780OC-3GD) £515.99 (£1,031.98)
1 x Acer HN274Hbmiiid 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Widescreen LED Monitor with NVIDIA 3D Vision Glasses £299.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £259.99
1 x Silverstone Strider Gold Evolution 850w 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (ST85F-G) £146.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £143.99 (£287.98)
1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-17066C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX21C11T2K2/16X) £139.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £139.94
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £131.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
- 1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Blue Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST3000DM001) HDD £99.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
3 x Prolimatech Blue Vortex Blue Wings 120mm Fan £10.99 (£32.97)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 24pin ATX extension 30cm - Blue £8.99
4 x BitFenix 6+2-Pin PCIe Extension 45cm - sleeved blue/black £5.99 (£23.96)
2 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to SATA Adapter 45 cm - sleeved blue/black £5.98 (£11.96)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Blue £4.99
1 x BitFenix 8-Pin EPS12V Extension 45cm - sleeved black/blue/black £4.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - Blue £4.49
Total : £2,874.71 (includes shipping : £22.20).



You can change the rings on the fans (of the watercooler) for Blue ones (they come with them i assume)..

The sound card will fit ontop of the first GPU.

Lots of blue.

Warning on the RAM:

Think I'll go for this one, purely cause I love the RAM warning (and colours )

 

[Gerard93]

**** liking the ram you have two 780's, wish I had 3k to spend I would personally wait till amd release there gpu's they are always one step ahead.

Do you know roughly how long that'll be?

 

[Gerard93]

Apologies for reviving my old (dead) thread! But seeing as my birthday is just a few days away I've changed my mind on the computer!

Colours Black and Red

and must haves r290x and 4770k

Must run all games on ulta/maxxed out

 

[Gerard93]

No worries, i like when people use their old threads.. i stops people re-asking you questions..

I like the scheme and the parts you want.. though the 290x stock cooler is noisy and hot so i have 2 suggestion for you (pick one):

1) wait until OEM cards are released with updated (better) cooling
2) Custom watercool the build

Which of these options appeal to you most?

Custom Water cool sounds nice, however, I've never done it before! But if its easy and I can get a step by step guide ill do it Unless you know how long it'll be for OEM cards and I could just build the system using current cards then add new ones in later?

 

[Gerard93]

We'll go for both please mate! See what you have to offer seeing as your specs generally look good!

 

[Gerard93]

Watercooled (not many changes)

YOUR BASKET
2 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95 (£859.90)
1 x Benq XL2720T 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99 (£299.98)
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £89.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99 (£171.98)
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £83.99
1 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £81.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 8pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy 6pin PCI-E extension 45cm - Red £6.49
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
12 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£35.88)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
Total : £3,145.51 (includes shipping : £22.20).

Probably go for the water cooling, just gonna ask some of my friends if they know anything of water cooling to help me set it up!

But I need to change the price up a little, seeing as I finally decided to pull the finger out and get driving! (little intensive course with a car to follow soon. ( sorry forgot to mention this in the post earlier ).


Things That I could scrap:

-Monitor ( use my current )
-Hard Drive ( use my current, though keep the SSD's in the list as I dont have any )
-Sound Card (Heard the r290x comes with a sound thingy?)
-Reduce graphics card to one (will xfire in coming months)

Let me know if theres anything else that can be adjusted slightly whilst still maximising performance.


Sorry about the hassle DoomedSpeed, feel bad now

 

[Gerard93]

Thats fine, don't feel bad..

That is why i do these specs, so people can actually see what thy are asking for and what the price will be..

I've got in down to £2k...

YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK R9 290X 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £429.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
1 x Antec High Current Pro 850W Modular '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £161.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-D5 Vario X-RES 140 (incl. pump) £107.99
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC R9-290X - Acetal £85.99
2 x Patriot Venom Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0KRD) £79.99 (£159.98)
1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy - Acetal £49.99
2 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99 (£83.98)
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Red £28.45
2 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99 (£51.98)
1 x Mayhems Dye Deep Red 15ml £5.48
2 x Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 Watercooling Fluid 1L £4.99 (£9.98)
3 x XSPC 7/16" ID [16/11mm] High Flex Hose - Clear [1m Length] £2.99 (£8.97)
10 x XSPC G1/4" to 7/16" ID, 5/8" OD Compression Fitting (Black Chrome) £2.99 (£29.90)
Total : £1,921.27 (includes shipping : £14.75).



The Loop is still able to take another card so you can add that later (though you'll need to bleed the loop and re-fill it)

I only included 1 SSD as the EVO have rapid mode which (near enough ) doubles there speed.. Im not sure if this works in RAID or not ( i doubt it).. which means you can add another SSD when the funds become available..

Had to change the RAM as the Corsair RED has vanished from the website..

Watercooling wise, do you have any preference on tube res or bay res? or are you not worried.. I've gone with a tube res just because i think it looks better (look at 8-packs rigs) but Bay res (mount in the 5.25" bays) are easier to fix in position..

Is this more the price range?

Looks good man! Will wait on the OEM cards coming out for the 290x thats for sure...don't want a noisy system! And is watercooling fairly easy to set up (I know you sent me a link but would you perhaps know from what you've heard, and is it like high risk (leaks and what not?)