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New CPU for video/photo editing
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Hi Big Bang,
firstly sorry if posting an AMD® Athlon™ II spec in anyway caused you any confusion or indeed your thread to turn into a gun-fight!
. . . I'm sure from your perspective it must seem pretty amusing! 
. . . . The AMD® was posted up because I genuinely believe that . . . a) You never heard of Athlon™ II (I could be wrong), and . . . b)For the money it's tremendously good value for money £££If however you are loaded and don't live in a cardboard box
then by all means feel free to blow as large a wad as you want too, it's all good . . . I just wanted to throw a nice Bang for buck option in there for your consideration! 
Btw: I've got a Intel® Pentium® 4 2.8GHz @ 3.5GHz here, if I get time I'll try and do some comparisons for you (P4 vs AII) . . .
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I think the point is, is the extra speed of the i5 for £50 more in photoediting and video encoding. depending on the OP's usage habits it mightn't be. The OP has been persented with two options.
All I would add is the i5, since faster could last longer and the i5 also has the lower power draw. Also the £50 save by going with the athlon could be reinvested into another 4gb ram. I built a PC for my GF's dad and went athlon for this reason and the fact that having a 3GHz quad meant more than having a few seconds on the little video encoding he does at home and it kept the price down.
for your graphics problem don't worry too much about the graphics cards. what you want is a motherboard with the proper connections for your camcorder be it USB, Firewire or eSata. again in the case of my GF's dad he already had a firewire card so it was a simple case of carrying that over.
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1. How many USB ports are needed?
2. Do you have any expansion cards you want carried over ie. TV card graphics card, USB card?
3. How is your camcorder connected to your PC?
4. How big is your case? (no point in recommending ATX if your case cant fit it)
5. How many Hard disks do you have?
6. Do you know about USB3?
While USB3 adds price faster transfer speeds may appeal to you. Alternatively you can get a USB3 PCI-E expansion card.
Generally for selecting processor a few things need answered.
1. How big are the photos/film files are you editing?
2. How often will you be editing eg. a couple of hours a day or until the project is completed.
3. How concerned are you about your electric bill?
4. Do you have a budget in mind? (important)
It sounds like your going for a complete new build. If so list what you know about your old build and try and get a mod to move this to the general forum. From your old build it may be possible to salvage some parts such as case, DVD-RW, HDD, expansion cards etc.
All I would add is the i5, since faster could last longer and the i5 also has the lower power draw. Also the £50 save by going with the athlon could be reinvested into another 4gb ram. I built a PC for my GF's dad and went athlon for this reason and the fact that having a 3GHz quad meant more than having a few seconds on the little video encoding he does at home and it kept the price down.
for your graphics problem don't worry too much about the graphics cards. what you want is a motherboard with the proper connections for your camcorder be it USB, Firewire or eSata. again in the case of my GF's dad he already had a firewire card so it was a simple case of carrying that over.
/snip
1. How many USB ports are needed?
2. Do you have any expansion cards you want carried over ie. TV card graphics card, USB card?
3. How is your camcorder connected to your PC?
4. How big is your case? (no point in recommending ATX if your case cant fit it)
5. How many Hard disks do you have?
6. Do you know about USB3?
While USB3 adds price faster transfer speeds may appeal to you. Alternatively you can get a USB3 PCI-E expansion card.
Generally for selecting processor a few things need answered.
1. How big are the photos/film files are you editing?
2. How often will you be editing eg. a couple of hours a day or until the project is completed.
3. How concerned are you about your electric bill?
4. Do you have a budget in mind? (important)
It sounds like your going for a complete new build. If so list what you know about your old build and try and get a mod to move this to the general forum. From your old build it may be possible to salvage some parts such as case, DVD-RW, HDD, expansion cards etc.
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Looks like he will need an analogue input for his VHS/Hi8 capture.
So some kind of capture card will be needed.
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Looks like he will need an analogue input for his VHS/Hi8 capture.
So some kind of capture card will be needed.
expansion card would be best solution then rather than a graphics card? Can you get USB devices that handle analogue inputs? Since he's looking to go digital it would be good to look at the connections on that. What do you think easy?
A hyperthreaded core is worth anything from +50% gain to -2%. The gain you get depends on the applications, video editing tends to give the +50% gain, however some games give no gain.
Bigbang what applications are you planning on running? If it's just general software / games then the i5 750 will be fine.
EDIT. Just noticed the thread title *dur*, video editing so I would choose i7.
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Guys . . . what are you basing these financial figures on?
. . . It's actually more than £50 once you add in some kind of cooler and shipping . . . and lets not forget the cost of a GPU also?£321.55/£334.12 - CPU/Mobo/Mem - this week only special offer
£331.55/£344.12 - CPU/Mobo/Mem
£351.55/£364.12 -CPU/Mobo/Mem/£20 GPU
The price difference between a decent AIIX4630 system (all in) and a cheap-as-possible i5-750/H55 system could be as much as £114.00 . . . . obviously the AMD system has a nice built in IGP included in the £250 asking price! . . .
my point here is if your going to recommend any hardware and spec someone up, then we need to deal Real World Figures and not something "made up" . . . facts include "accurate" financial figures as well as performance data . . . . i.e post the truth and do not bend figures to suit ones point of view . . clearly this £50 price difference is actually over £100 price difference?, is this a new stealth tax on the hardware enthusiast!
Still £350 (approx) isn't too shabby for some sort of i5 CPU/Mobo/Ram/GPU combo . . . is it worth the £100 + premium over the AIIX4? (+40% ££). . . didn't see a i750/H55 combo before?, thought an i750 was best matched with a P55 mobo? . . . either way it's nice that Big Bang (O.P) has a few options!
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apologies bigwayne sorted now. I just feel that you could explain more what the Asus mobo has to offer especially in terms of the technology and what makes it particularly good over a say a cheaper board thats all.
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feeddagoat, did your girlfriends dad like his new AIIX4 Multimedia workstation?. . . . please feel free to "explain more what the Asus mobo has to offer" . . . I didn't really go into one as I wasn't sure if Big Bang would be interested?
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He did. Hes a professional photographer so the money saved was better invested in a larger hard disk and the 8gb ram for him. Also he wanted a quad for epeen purposes so the athlon looks better with the higher clock speed lol. In reality tho its a very fast machine and with him doing something similar with archiving and editing old films (hence the connection questions) he would use the quad but not need it heavily. The extra time saving wouldn't add up to much in the long run. In the end his system was £500 (at the time there was also bigger differences in price between the two set ups and i3 had only just launched)
Yes you can get USB devices that handle composite in and SVHS in.
There are many external USB analogue capture devices about.
For digital a firewire card can be bought very cheaply or a USB 3.0 card or just use the onboard USB 2 on the mobo.
Why do you care?
Offer advice based on fact
He doesn't know your from "adam"
I don't care either way....I post fact
You sound like a shrink!
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64 BIT?
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He had a free windows 7 install and was always going for 64-bit anyway.
Big Bang I guess to summarise this thread for you:
For £250.13 you can get the following:
If you decide to go i5 the following (I have gone with the flawless specification),gets you a comparable specification to the AM3 one, i.e. the addition of a cooler for the CPU and a comparable graphics card as the AM3 MB has on-board:
So the difference based on like for like features is around: £140.00 ish
The i5 set-up will perform better than the AM3, you also have the option of buying a cheaper or more expensive GPU.. although if you don't seriously game the AM3 on board and the one in the i5 spec are more than adequate.
It may be that neither specification is suitable If we could have a budget or a budget range and an idea on software to be used.. I am sure that a better recommendation could be given.
For £250.13 you can get the following:
If you decide to go i5 the following (I have gone with the flawless specification),gets you a comparable specification to the AM3 one, i.e. the addition of a cooler for the CPU and a comparable graphics card as the AM3 MB has on-board:
So the difference based on like for like features is around: £140.00 ish
The i5 set-up will perform better than the AM3, you also have the option of buying a cheaper or more expensive GPU.. although if you don't seriously game the AM3 on board and the one in the i5 spec are more than adequate.
It may be that neither specification is suitable
If we could have a budget or a budget range and an idea on software to be used.. I am sure that a better recommendation could be given.