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New CPU Time

To those who believe the 7700K is "the better" CPU, because of the benchmarks. Observe closely the CPU single core usage on the Nvidia cards compared to the AMD card. This is the first time we see an AMD card used in a benchmark. Look at how the single cores hit 90% almost all the time on the Nvidia cards, and usually the usage is double that compared to Vega.
Ofc the higher speed of the 7700K would make the 1080/1080Ti perf be better compared to Ryzen or SkylakeX, but that's down to Nvidia being crap on driver optimisation.

 
Bluntwrapped said:
I get that and completely agree, but you're talking from our perspective rather than someone who has shared interests with Intel. They're both quite different.

Lol :D this thread seems to have gone off on a tangent. OP:
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That's true but not really my concern.

Lol most of these threads do but I'm sure their is enough info contained in here for him to make a decision :). At least we didn't have void or his mate in here :D
 
At the end of the day the guys on YouTube or these overclocking celebrities are just like us but fortunate enough to get paid for their hobby. Just because they say one thing and they have a YouTube channel, doesn't mean they're not capable of making amateur mistakes or talking a lot of *****. Look at Linus for example lol.
 
no bs or anything considered at this very time if you after just a gaming cpu.the 7700k is the fastest in its market sector placing.every benchmark proves that.or literally most of them.will that change yes.would i buy one now ? no. blah blah ryzen some game benchmarks the 7700k can be 40 fps up on any ryzen for gaming.alone.not all do media or encoding or streaming.if you just a gamer the 7700k is still the fastest cpu for the job at reasonable money.
 
Doesn't it come down to other components you're using, resolution and the games you play? 4 cores can definitely be susceptible to stutter in specific scenarios in some titles where 6 or more cores will handle the same scenario just fine on the exact same hardware.

There's a number of people across various forums who aren't AMD shills who've experienced smoother performance on Ryzen in BF1 64MP than they had previosuly on a newer overclocked Intel I7 4 core.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Doesn't it come down to other components you're using, resolution and the games you play? 4 cores can definitely be susceptible to stutter in specific scenarios in some titles where 6 or more cores will handle the same scenario just fine on the exact same hardware.

There's a number of people across various forums who aren't AMD shills who've experienced smoother performance on Ryzen in BF1 64MP than they had previosuly on a newer overclocked Intel I7 4 core.
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Exactly this. 4cores are not enough anymore. Go coffeelake or ryzen 1600 or higher.
 
well it depends on the games and if developers go the route of the cores.i told people till blue in the face that older i5s were just no good for bf1 since it launched many said more or less you talking bs now ryzens out many have those i5s gone and are singing about needing extra cores and it is funny.:p

but...as you see the i7 7700k is still faster over 99 percent of the games.the truth is for just gaming the high core frequency is still probably the best overall bet.if you just gaming.whether that changes to more multicore develoment in games still will take time.this is why intel has the best performance still.now all they need to do is 6 core performance in the main gaming sector with 7700k high frequency and that continues.the old king the 7700k retires new intel king takes its place.

ryzens just cant do the high frequeny needed to take the lead.so unless gaming changes they wont be the top cpu for a long long time.that doesnt mean they dont offer great performance per pound they obviously offer at the moment a better value than intel just not higher performance for gaming.
 
Its also funny how intel boys are recognising that the 8700k is needed. Before that it was ryzen is a waste yada yada.
I think 99% is an exaggeration. Both are capable of pushing the fastest GPU available to its limit (in most games that arent using archaic engines.)
If you are gaming at anything higher than 1080 then your point is moot, the money would be better spent on a faster GPU.
 
Wouldn't you rather take lower max and average frames that feel consistently smooth over higher average/max frames that can be prone to frametime issues due to 4 cores?

You're recommending above that people go out and buy a 7700k as it's king of gaming then saying it's okay because Intel are introducing a 6 core that won't suffer from these multicore problems.
 
gavinh87 said:
Its also funny how intel boys are recognising that the 8700k is needed. Before that it was ryzen is a waste yada yada.
I think 99% is an exaggeration. Both are capable of pushing the fastest GPU available to its limit (in most games that arent using archaic engines.)
If you are gaming at anything higher than 1080 then your point is moot, the money would be better spent on a faster GPU.
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These days the 7700K only wins if you use a 1080TI and run your games at 1080P, and even then only by about 10%.

So its moot for about 97% of potential buyers.

Also, i doubt the 8700K is going to make a lot of difference to Intel's standing in that, its not going to be faster in games than the 7700K.
 
humbug said:
These days the 7700K only wins if you use a 1080TI and run your games at 1080P, and even then only by about 10%.

So its moot for about 97% of potential buyers.

Also, i doubt the 8700K is going to make a lot of difference to Intel's standing in that, its not going to be faster in games than the 7700K.
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Judging by the cpu-z screens, its single thread is no better. Will probably clock lower due to heat from extra cores and its still gets mullered by the 1700 in multi.
What a fantastic time for CPU's :)
 
gavinh87 said:
Judging by the cpu-z screens, its single thread is no better. Will probably clock lower due to heat from extra cores and its still gets mullered by the 1700 in multi.
What a fantastic time for CPU's :)
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Of course not, its a rehashed KabyLake, which is a rehashed SkyLake.... ;)

Yes, it is indeed, look at Threadripper.... how quickly things can turn, this is great for all of us.
 
thread ripper haha.its another ryzen story.high cb scores and editing and progs 99 percent dont use and then slower at gaming than intel platform and everything else 99 percent of us use.

i dont care which platform i use.i have amd systems and intel but haha come on intel is still the fastest option.

i think humbugs just after matts job :p
 
~>Dg<~ said:
no bs or anything considered at this very time if you after just a gaming cpu.the 7700k is the fastest in its market sector placing.every benchmark proves that.or literally most of them.will that change yes.would i buy one now ? no. blah blah ryzen some game benchmarks the 7700k can be 40 fps up on any ryzen for gaming.alone.not all do media or encoding or streaming.if you just a gamer the 7700k is still the fastest cpu for the job at reasonable money.
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Even if it were true that the i7-7700K provides a better gaming experience across the board (it doesn't), it's still at least 50% more expensive than the R5 1600 and that doesn't even include the more expensive motherboards, the necessary aftermarket cooler, or the added cost of delidding and expensive cooling solutions needed for high overclocks. It's just not a sensible buy at all. Put the money into a better GPU instead.

By the way your posts are really hard to read, can you not at least enable automatic space and capitalisation after full stops on your phone's keyboard?
 
~>Dg<~ said:
thread ripper haha.its another ryzen story.high cb scores and editing and progs 99 percent dont use and then slower at gaming than intel platform and everything else 99 percent of us use.

i dont care which platform i use.i have amd systems and intel but haha come on intel is still the fastest option.

i think humbugs just after matts job :p
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Incoherent infantile rambling.

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~>Dg<~ said:
thread ripper haha.its another ryzen story.high cb scores and editing and progs 99 percent dont use and then slower at gaming than intel platform and everything else 99 percent of us use.

i dont care which platform i use.i have amd systems and intel but haha come on intel is still the fastest option.

i think humbugs just after matts job :p
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If Intel was so concerned with the environment they wouldnt released multiple generations of processors all within low percentage of perf of each other while also needing a new motherboard everytime.
 
your waiting to see threadripper benchmarks.you saying how great it is arent you.dont need to reply just wait till its out save it till then.
 
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