New CTR

Oo_Scotty_oO · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:02

Heres a new site for the new CTR

http://www.redh.co.uk/?campaignid=CM049200E01A

Looks good to me, what do you think ?

merlin · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:08

Exactly as I said - vtec engagement earlier, and same power.

<- smug.

eidolon · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:10

Still made by blind men in Swindon though so I won't be getting one.

merlin · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:12

eidolon said:
Still made by blind men in Swindon though so I won't be getting one.

Yup.

Bit too "quirky" for my liking. I think it belongs in 2009.

Sanchez · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:12

I'd seen pictures of the new CTR and really liked it. Then I saw it at Excel this year......it looks like a Civic with nasty stick on Halfrauds tat stuck on it. I'm not too keen! Bet it's bloddy fast and good fun to drive though!

Hate · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:15

omg

that website is truly awful... why oh why do people insist on making such abominations.

click gallery, what do you get? a load of whizzing around thumbnails and stupid sfx.

Also, surely with the new turbocharged hot hatches I can't help but feel the civic will always be seen as "weaker"

merlin · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:18

Hate said:
Also, surely with the new turbocharged hot hatches I can't help but feel the civic will always be seen as "weaker"

Depends on how much it weighs, and how it handles.

Power isn't eveything. It could be an absolute weapon for all we know...

Interesting to see how it stacks up against the current CTR. I'd love to know the weight - see whether it's about the same or whether it's got lardy, like "new" cars do.

Hate · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:20

it appears the new civic is ~ 100KG heavier than its predecessor.

Sanchez · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:24

Hate said:
Also, surely with the new turbocharged hot hatches I can't help but feel the civic will always be seen as "weaker"

I've a friend who runs a modified Leon FR. He had a go at a breadvan CTR. He said that the extra revs of the CTR gave it a big advantage especially when changing through the gears (turbo lag).

merlin · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:25

Hate said:
it appears the new civic is ~ 100KG heavier than its predecessor.

Oh dear. That aint cricket is it.

Where you find that? Is it in the same website? It's a mess to navigate.

Hate · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:29

Just using parkers and looking at a collection of weights.

the old 1.6 civic sport is ~ 1140kg
the old civic R is ~ 1200kg

the new 1.8 regular vtec civic is ~ 1288kg

its by no means comprehensive but it doesn't bode well

Sanchez said:
I've a friend who runs a modified Leon FR. He had a go at a breadvan CTR. He said that the extra revs of the CTR gave it a big advantage especially when changing through the gears (turbo lag).

can't say i get noticable lag on my celica really, feels just as smooth as the prelude did

merlin · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:35

Just found it says they've lowered the gear ratios to compensate for the extra weight so it's likely to be the same to 60mph/100mph 1/4 mile etc.

ElRazur · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:47

Why is all the good things being released for march next year? Ps3, Civic typeR....what next?

Seriously, that looks cool. I wish i have enough money for one and insurance.

Beepcake · 15 Sep 2006 at 14:53

I thought the front was bad.. until I saw the back.. *vomit*

mad_allan · 15 Sep 2006 at 15:25

I just can't get over the looks.

Now I know the current CTR is also subject o "bread van" remarks but that truely is horrible.

I like the fact that VTEC will kick in earlier but so does my CTR at the moment

I for one will not be purchasing

melchy · 15 Sep 2006 at 15:38

What is the on the road price likely to be ?

No doubt there will end up being a bit of a waiting list. It seems that unlike a lot of people, i actually like the looks of the new Type R.

Dogbreath · 15 Sep 2006 at 15:40

merlin said:
Just found it says they've lowered the gear ratios to compensate for the extra weight so it's likely to be the same to 60mph/100mph 1/4 mile etc.

Hmm, shame it doesn't work like that in real life. Can the old Civic hit 60 in 2nd? If so and the new one can't due to lowering gearing it will hurt 0-60 times badly (not that they mean anything of course).

melchy · 15 Sep 2006 at 15:41

Dogbreath said:
Hmm, shame it doesn't work like that in real life. Can the old Civic hit 60 in 2nd? If so and the new one can't due to lowering gearing it will hurt 0-60 times badly (not that they mean anything of course).

0 - 60 of the new one is listed a 6.6 seconds which is a good as the old one i think.

mad_allan · 15 Sep 2006 at 15:49

Dogbreath said:
Hmm, shame it doesn't work like that in real life. Can the old Civic hit 60 in 2nd? If so and the new one can't due to lowering gearing it will hurt 0-60 times badly (not that they mean anything of course).

Nope, 2nd cuts at 58mph

FireBIade · 15 Sep 2006 at 16:14

think the current CTR does

0-60 in 6.4s
0-62 in 6.6s

the new one looks great from the front and the side but i'm not sure about the rear, especially with that spoiler blocking rear view. One thing we see on that webiste is the interior, which personally I hadn't seen yet. To be honest it looks very good & functional & I know I would just love the start button in the morning

Yesterday I went to test drive a 2nd hand model of the current CTR. The price is being reduced as it's old stock now, Honda dealers need to get rid of them. It's a 55 reg with 8k on the clock for £13995, it's a good deal but now I just don't know what to do

. When I drove it , it didn't seem all that fast, but maybe it was just the impression the car gives?? Also to be honest I get a better exhaust note from my old Civic.

Will need a different car soon though.

Arrrgh, choices choices!

Fire ..