New D3 & D300?

xolotl · 23 Aug 2007 at 12:28

What surprising to me is that Nikon didn't have any IS super primes before this announcement. I just assumed that they would have. I guess there is a reason you only see big whites at sporting events!

Raymond Lin · 23 Aug 2007 at 12:32

Nikon's lens line up has always has holes in them, it's part of the reason some people choses Canon. There are more to taking a picture than the body.

SilverPenguin · 23 Aug 2007 at 12:32

xolotl said:
What surprising to me is that Nikon didn't have any IS super primes before this announcement. I just assumed that they would have. I guess there is a reason you only see big whites at sporting events!

I've no idea if this is true or not but I once read online that Nikon developed the idea of IS but gave exclusive use to Canon for X amount of years (on lenses over a certain length), so Nikon were unable to release it in their own lenses.

Sounds like BS to me, but it is very odd that Nikon have waited so long, I'll agree on that!

xolotl · 23 Aug 2007 at 12:38

SilverPenguin said:
I've no idea if this is true or not but I once read online that Nikon developed the idea of IS but gave exclusive use to Canon for X amount of years (on lenses over a certain length), so Nikon were unable to release it in their own lenses.

Sounds like BS to me, but it is very odd that Nikon have waited so long, I'll agree on that!

I would be willing to bet that that isn't true. It just makes no sense at all.

These new bodies do look very nice but I doubt it's going to cause many people to switch. After all new bodies come along every year. For anyone with a significant investment in either system selling up is rarely an attractive option.

SDK^ · 23 Aug 2007 at 12:57

xolotl said:
These new bodies do look very nice but I doubt it's going to cause many people to switch. After all new bodies come along every year. For anyone with a significant investment in either system selling up is rarely an attractive option.

Indeed, the benefit for everyone though is increased competition leading to lower prices.

If Canon weren't so far ahead then Nikon wouldn't have pushed so hard to develop such high spec cameras. Now Canon will be forced to do the same and thus everyone is happy.

It's totally pointless switching systems every 18 months just because the other side is stronger.

jhmaeng said:
And both the D300 and D3 have 922,000 pixel, 3-inch screens... The Canon ones are 3 inch too, of course, but I bet they're considerably less detailed.

Yup, the Canon LCD's only have 230,000 pixels

Messiah Khan · 23 Aug 2007 at 13:10

xolotl said:
What surprising to me is that Nikon didn't have any IS super primes before this announcement. I just assumed that they would have. I guess there is a reason you only see big whites at sporting events!

Its quite possible they were waiting for the development of a full frame sensor to ensure that the new breed of Long telephoto primes with VR would stand up in terms of quality. Its also quite possible that they were unsure if their future products would go fully DX format, or as they have done and go DX and FX. Imagine how annoyed people would have been if they brought out a AF-S 600mm f4 VR DX, only for a full frame to be released a year or two down the road.

Raymond Lin · 23 Aug 2007 at 13:11

I love these competitions, great for the consumers.

SilverPenguin · 23 Aug 2007 at 13:13

I've got my name down for the D3 but they guy said he 'thinks' I might be in the top 100 on the list but he can't say for sure lol.

Gives me longer to get the pennies ready at least.

Messiah Khan · 23 Aug 2007 at 13:17

SilverPenguin said:
I've got my name down for the D3 but they guy said he 'thinks' I might be in the top 100 on the list but he can't say for sure lol.

Gives me longer to get the pennies ready at least.

Congratulations. *Major jealousy* Really look forwards to seeing what you think of it and what you can produce using it.

SilverPenguin · 23 Aug 2007 at 13:21

messiah khan said:
Congratulations. *Major jealousy* Really look forwards to seeing what you think of it and what you can produce using it.

As am I. Although I suspect by the time they get to me on the list there will be a lot of owners reviews already online lol. I should have called first thing this morning but I was late for work, doh!

Still, something to look forward too

rich_g85 · 23 Aug 2007 at 17:27

Just had the email announcing the D3 and D300 - the D3 looks very impressive.

Gareth · 23 Aug 2007 at 18:58

D300 ordered. 1st on the list with my local Nikon dealer. Roll on November, or maybe December

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 23 Aug 2007 at 19:16

Told you Nikon would go full frame.
Daft to assume otherwise.

This camera really is awesome. Its good to see them bang out a camera of such high quality and features.

virtual horizon function oh yes please.

ISO 25600 on a Nikon.... Please email me an example.

xolotl · 23 Aug 2007 at 19:52

Wide sensitivity range
The camera’s ISO sensitivity range is extremely broad, allowing photographers to shoot
low noise photographs in a variety of situations. The camera’s normal range is from ISO
200 to 6400, and this range can be extended using the camera’s built-in settings of Lo-1
and Hi-2 for the equivalent of ISO 100 and ISO 25,600, respectively.

So it doesn't have a proper ISO 100 setting. That's slightly odd. The boosting of the ISO has never really appealed to me, surely you can achieve the same function by using EC then photoshop?

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 23 Aug 2007 at 20:24

xolotl said:
So it doesn't have a proper ISO 100 setting. That's slightly odd. The boosting of the ISO has never really appealed to me, surely you can achieve the same function by using EC then photoshop?

Its nothing more than a marketing gimmick. I would be very surprised if this Nikon out did Canon in the noise IQ one sided war

divine` · 23 Aug 2007 at 20:28

xolotl said:
So it doesn't have a proper ISO 100 setting. That's slightly odd. The boosting of the ISO has never really appealed to me, surely you can achieve the same function by using EC then photoshop?

They never have had ISO100 though a lot of people say that Nikon's ISO speeds are slightly slower than marked and so a Nikon ISO200 is fairly close to a Canon 100 in terms of exposure/metering/whatever.

Joe T · 23 Aug 2007 at 21:09

Fstop11 said:
Its nothing more than a marketing gimmick. I would be very surprised if this Nikon out did Canon in the noise IQ one sided war

I think the jury is out on this one. These new sensor's are Nikon's own compared to the Sony designs they've used in the past. Who knows what the noise levels will be like!

rich_g85 · 23 Aug 2007 at 21:14

With the release of the D3, can we expect to see the price of the D2X and D2Xs begin to fall?

Johnny|lucidcomposure · 23 Aug 2007 at 21:14

divine` said:
They never have had ISO100 though a lot of people say that Nikon's ISO speeds are slightly slower than marked and so a Nikon ISO200 is fairly close to a Canon 100 in terms of exposure/metering/whatever.

This is true. ISO200 was about the rating of ISO120 or something. Either way, it was a noisy system

aztechnology · 24 Aug 2007 at 00:30

This certainly makes things interesting.

I've been a Canon film user for a long time, but it seem like they (canon) don't really have the lead anymore when it comes to inovation in Body Design.

Personally I probably have too much money in Canon glass to jump ship, (if and when I get a DSLR), but the D300 seem to be just about everything I would want a 3D to be.. ..It just has the wrong lens mounts.

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